6mo ago

Kamala Harris Paid the Price for Not Breaking With Biden on Gaza, New Poll Shows

www.dropsitenews.com

Twenty-nine percent of non-voters who supported Biden in 2020 said U.S. support for the genocide was the top reason they sat the 2024 election, according to a survey by YouGov.

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Imagine throwing an election because you love genocide too much.
- How could the dems know that genocide is unpopular??! What's next, are you going to tell me canceling all student debt would have been popular? Throwing Trump in prison? Rescheduling cannabis? Not campaigning on building the wall and closing the border?
  
  Amazing anyone thinks that Gaza made a difference in votes.
  The numbers are out. It was white men, white women, and hispanic men that stayed home because they couldn't stomach voting for a woman after voting for a white man with the same policies.
- It's amazing that she was in bed with Israel according to pro Palestinians and in bed with Hamas according to pro Israeli.
  We all have been played through social media algorithms, and it didn't really matter what stance she had or would have.
  Disinformation was so amazingly orchestrated that people on both sides of any issue hated her.
  
  It's not disinformation and it's hardly specific to social media.
  Democrats falling for republican's saying they're soft on crime when they unilaterally defund schools to fund the police, that they've opened the borders when they deport more immigrants than the republican administrations, that they're weak on foreign policy even while they're bombing half a dozen countries, etc goes back to Clinton.
  Every single time the dems act like they're going to get the mythical moderate republican vote or a pat on the head or something if they just do the abhorrent shit the republicans are accusing them of not doing, and every time they fall for it.
  
  Harris was in bed with Israel.
  Israel will always scream everyone is not pro Israel enough so enlightened centrists believe both sides are equally served.
  Israel called Biden Hamas.
I don't like shitty conspiracies but this really felt like they were working really hard to try to lose the election.
- No, I really thought trump was trying to lose. Saying people in ohio eat cats and dogs, and he has no plan, just concepts of a plan. I really thought he was throwing the election.
  I made one mistake. I forgot that this country is full of morons.
  
  I wanted to bet on a Trump win so bad on the premise that Americans are not to be trusted ever, but couldn't quite stoop to it.
  
  I thing Trump was trying to loose and his handlers were trying their best to stop him.
  
  I made one mistake.
  well, then all this is your fault because you were told MANY times to, "make no mistake".
  Everyone, I found out the person to blame for the election results, its this effin guy right here.
I think the guys at TLDR news said it best: if Trump threatening to withhold aid was enough to get a cease-fire deal, then Biden HAD enough leverage this whole time to get one. He just DIDN'T USE IT.
If this poll is to be believed (which is a big if), Biden and Harris let a fascist back into the whitehouse because they didn't want to stop a genocide.
- Not only did he have the option, he was advised by White House counsel that continuing to arm the genocide was a violation of domestic & international law. He did it anyway.
So fucking idiots were idiots, as usual. And they believe they're somehow morally superior while handing Gaza over to Israel in the process. As if Trump and the Republican party was the better option, they care even less about Gaza than the Biden admin.
This is why the Dems and progressive both keep losing everything, too many dumb fucks that think they're making a difference while just making things worse with inaction.
- Maybe if Democrats stop taking entire demographics for granted without providing them with anything, they'd win more.
  
  Demos like the "won't support any genocide" demo.
- You know, while I am a fan of choosing the lesser evil, when the "lesser evil" is genocide, maybe it is time to re-consider the approach.
  
  Their response was to avoid it, resulting in the worst option by default.
  It was clear this would be the result. Choosing not to vote was the worst option to choose both objectively, and morally. And considering the entire supposed reasoning was moral, they failed spectacularly.
It's doubtable this poll has uncovered something that countless other post-election polls have missed.
It's more likely that the pollster is biased. This is the first sentence of About section of the pollster's website: "Palestinians, like all people, are entitled to live in freedom and with their human rights respected. Yet, for too long, the US government has funded and enabled Israel’s denial of Palestinian human rights."
- But other polls have found similar results?
  
  I dug into the survey and it appears they intentionally skewed the results by the word choice and order of the questions.
  For example: "5. Do you [favor or oppose] the Biden administration approving taxpayer-funded weapons and other military support to Israel, even if the U.S. government has no control over whether the Israeli military uses those weapons on innocent civilians in Gaza, or are you undecided?"
  The wording in that question will predispose a respondent to view the Biden administration negatively, even if that wasn't the main reason that a respondent chose not to vote.
  Worse, they asked that question before they asked about sitting out the election, predisposing the respondent to view that topic as more significant in their decision to sit out the election.
  If the purpose of a poll was to figure out the reason for not voting, this is not a scientific way to do it. It predictably would skew results as it appears to have done.
- Imagine thinking that Palestinians being human beings is indicative of a bias. Yikes....
  
  Yes, it does smell of bias when we're talking about statistics and polling. Why would you even mention all that in such a story? It should be a dry, here's the facts kinda story.
  "We believe $X and here's the polling to prove it."
- The other polls which had Kamala leading Trump?
Trump isn't pro Palestine. How on earth are people so dumb.
- Nor is biden, nor is kamala, how are you so simple minded? If trump hating netenyahu is enough to stop the war or give a moment of ceasefire for aid then he already did more then biden ever did. Also the bill drafted for ceasefire under trump does allow Palestinans to return to all of Gaza which is something the Israeli government does not want as they are colonizing demons who in 75 years have absolutely destroyed the pretty solid 3000 year old reputation of the jews.
- All Harris needed to do was change her position on that to win. How on earth was she so dumb?
  
  How on earth do you think an american president will position themselves on Israël ever? There is zero chance one will go against, zero. And who ever believe Trump would not support Israël is delusional.
  It really makes me wonder why on earth a democrat would ever not vote democrat in your current system. Sure she is far from ideal. But trump???
  Its like the french not voting macron and letting lepen passs !
I need to read the article, but I'm going in skeptically. I think progressives - especially younger, more idealistic ones - are ignorant of just how much money and influence AIPAC wields.
Maybe she could have gotten those 29% (however many actual votes that amounts to), but it AIPAC would have turned actively hostile against her, my guess is those votes would have been overshadowed by the loss of pro-Israel votes she did get.
- I think centrists - especially older more cynical ones who are less idealistic and more transactional in their politics in a selfish way are ignorant of how being too afraid to fight, or to have solidarity, or to draw red lines in the sand about GENOCIDE is the reason fascists took power.
  Young, idealistic progressives who are willing to actually fight to defend what they love are our only hope and if you are an older jaded centrist, keep your mouth shut and listen, you have a lot to unlearn and not much time left to do it before the violence y'all helped normalize consumes us all.

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