Posters for 'whites-only' parent-and-child group in Metro Vancouver draw outrage
Posters for 'whites-only' parent-and-child group in Metro Vancouver draw outrage
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Worth noting investigation by some users here on Lemmy have shown the situation to be really hinky. Probably just a troll race-baiting since no actual group has been found.
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Good point .... so many social activities and actions now are so manipulated that you never know what anyone is doing.
Whatever information I read now ... I have to constantly stop to ask myself.... who wrote this? .. why? .. who does the writer represent? Who are they? What do they do? Where do they come from? What are their names and do they have a bio?
If I can't quickly verify who you are and what you wrote then I'm not believing anything that is said ... the same goes for the subject that is being written about ... who was the subject you wrote about? Did you find out who they were? Or what organization they represent?
I find I have to the majority of the work on my own in order to verify most of the junk I read online.
Officially recognised news media outlets are decent but even they have to be scrutinized in everything they say and write.
It's the age of information .... it's just that no one said it was disinformation, misinformation or just plain non-information.
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Whatever information I read now … I have to constantly stop to ask myself… who wrote this? … why? … who does the writer represent? Who are they? What do they do? Where do they come from? What are their names and do they have a bio?
This is actually the hard part of actual "research": evaluating the source's qualities.
Every time someone says to me "have you heard about xxxxxxxxx yyyyyyyyyyy" I ask, "according to whom?".
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no actual group has been found.
Could you elaborate on this? The article mentions both an e-mail address and associated Telegram group.
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This is in my neighbourhood. Fuck these racist assholes. They do not speak for the far, far majority of people in this area.
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Children don't "see race", they go on "in-group" and "out group".
And if you're not exposed to people of other races, then that forms along racial lines.
This is why people opposed desegregation of schools/housing, and even shit like Alabama banning Sesame Street because it showed different kids getting along.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
City officials in Metro Vancouver have described signs advertising a "whites-only" social group for mothers and children as "vile garbage."
On Sunday, social media posts about the "Whites-only Moms and Tots" group meant for families of European descent began popping up on Instagram and X, formerly known as Twitter, with many condemning the posters as racist.
Officials with the neighbouring City of Port Coquitlam said they had been alerted to the posters over the weekend and directed bylaw officers to search for them and remove them.
"As soon as it was brought to our attention, bylaw officers immediately searched the area and all bus stops, but no signs were present.
In its statement, Port Coquitlam condemned the signs and the group they advertise "in the strongest terms," adding that the city "promotes an environment without hate."
CBC News contacted the group through the email address provided on the sign, but did not immediately receive a response.
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FWIW I will never get the hypocrisy over race-based groups being fine for anyone but white people in the west lol. Yes, in reality the white group is always a quasi-neo nazi group once you pull a couple layers away in the west... but...
I'm just waiting for the pendulum to swing the other way on it. You'll get real-deal white people only groups just to poke a hole in the hypocrisy of the other groups ala The Satanic Temple. It'll just be a bunch of white people talking about their personal heritage of trailer park trash customs, video games, football legends, and maybe literal Folk European History lol. Then again I suppose that was kinda why the Supreme Court struck down Affirmative Action. Can't discriminate based on X.
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FWIW I will never get the hypocrisy over race-based groups being fine for anyone but white people in the west lol.
It's because there can often be non-discriminatory reasons why you'd want to create an exclusionary group for minority groups. A group for First Nations or American Indians that focused on working on equality, or preserving culture. Groups that focus on racial justice or equality might not include the dominant race.
It doesn't even need to be minority by numbers, but by power. Curves is a gym where (some) ban men from joining. This is to provide a space where women feel safe to work out. Women are not a perceived numerical minority (at least in the US) but a minority in social and legal power.
If there was a white-only group that had a similar issue it focused on, I doubt people would be that upset. But white people (at least in Canada and the US) hold the most power and are a majority in many ways. So most of the above reasons don't exist for them. So there are fewer white-only groups and when there are ones you hear about, it's often because they are being exclusionary in order to discriminate.
I would also like to note from a US-law perspective, a lot of the above exclusionary groups don't actually prevent white people or men from joining. Some do with legal exceptions but it's rare.
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Ironically there are what the poster above would consider "white" cultural organizations, organized around cultural lines. There's a Ukrainian Cultural Centre, a German Cultural Centre and an Italian cultural centre nearby. The concept of a "white" cultural centre the above poster suggests is something different though, and I don't really know how they would define it. I don't think they are complaining about the lack of an organization to put on Robbie Burns night festivities. Those exist.
The absence of a "white" cultural centre is a false dichotomy IMNSHO, based on the idea that there is some sort of pan-cultural white-only culture. In a Canadian context, I have trouble coming up with a cultural definition that would simultaneously encompass all the acceptable "white" cultures while also excluding non-whites. Everything truly Canadian isn't really whites-only, Canadian history encompasses multiple skin colours right from the beginning. I guess the English ex-pat clubs and the Robbie Burns Scottish clubs would come closest to that from a Canadian perspective, but those aren't strictly from Canada, and they do in fact exist. And no one complains.
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Is it weird that I want to start a 'whites only' group with black and latino members?
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There are white latinos, so... no?
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That feel when Latinos are so good at stealing your jobs that they even head up the Proud Boys lol.
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Yes, in reality the white group is always a quasi-neo nazi group once you pull a couple layers away in the west… but…
So you know exactly what the problem is and why a "whites-only" group is suspect ... and yet you continued typing.
Weird call, brodude. Really fucking weird call.
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Wow, it actually says "whites only". This isn't some case of someone waking up angry and tweeting about christian mingle or someshit, its actually just racist.
Yes, racially exclusive associations are gross. Same with events that exclude attendance based on sex/gender. We are all people.
There's a time and a place.
For example, a "women's only" group may be for a group of women who are healing from a sexually violent relationship, so they really don't want to see men there.
But a parent and child group that excludes races? That just a gross kind of bigotry.