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teohhanhui @lemmy.world

1mo ago

jointhefediverse.net - Why was Lemmy removed from the list of fediverse alternatives?

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jointhefediverse.net seems to be a commonly linked resource for directing people to join the Fediverse.

Curiously, it does not list Lemmy under the list of Reddit alternatives. Their GitHub README explains why.

Previous relevant discussion: https://lemmy.ml/post/78808

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"I'm gonna stop using GNU/Linux because I don't like Richard Stallman"
It's valid to dislike the devs (I disagree, I've found them nothing but courteous, and have read their posts with interest), but it's ridiculous to exclude their software from this list.

The reasoning they give is ludicrous. That's idiotic as saying because someone put up a pedophile website, Apache is the devil. Even if Apache were built by NAMBLA, if it's opensource and doesn't randomly insert pictures of naked kids into your website, how does the developer matter to the product?

This is so stupid. Did everyone stop using ballpoint pens because the inventor was a nazi? No.
- but... I wouldn't drive a Tesla because of Elon Musk.
  
  But by buying a tesla youre giving elon money and promoting his product which is much more closely tied to his views than lemmy is to the devs views.
- Ballpoint pens don't spread nazi propaganda. I don't know where you thought this was going.
  
  Have you used a pen before? They definitely can spread propaganda...

Nutomic and Dessalines may be tankies, but they're our tankies
- They may be your tankis, but they sure arent our tankies.
  They can fuck right off
  
  They are literally developing the platform we are on. Sure, I don't agree with their opinion at all, but it doesn't mean I can't respect their work.

Lemmy was removed due to:
reports of how the developers handle certain types of content (post removed, view an incomplete archive)
the behavior of its creator
how the sotware itself handles users' privacy.
All valid concerns.
- Point 1 and 2 really need to be addressed.
  It would be so much better if lemmy wasn't developed by genocide white-washing tankies.
  
  Have you checked how muh software do you use that is enabled by capitalism?
- I hate it when people try to gatekeep like this. I don't need to be handheld. If there's a Fediverse alternative to something and it mostly works, it should be on the website. Anything less is not useful at best.
  Edit: I say this as someone who has historically criticized the behavior of the devs as well as multiple Lemmy communities BTW.
  
  Well, since you've vocally criticised the developers and they haven't bothered changing their ways, wouldn't you agree they deserve to be gatekept?
  On the other hand, it's not for you to decide the criteria for what is included on jointhefediverse's curated list. I personally think it is a perfectly reasonable judgement call they've made.

I wrote this before
I spotted Dessalines posted literal propaganda on some community I joined
gotta be honest that does not sit well with me
- Lemmy.world has literal propaganda, too.
  They posted a Radio Free Asia article and banned anyone who pointed out it's a government run CIA propaganda op. Even redditors know that's propaganda lol.
  It's everywhere, you can't avoid it, you just have to learn to be discerning, media critical, and look into sources.

Their claims regarding privacy are really not surprising, it's very on-brand for the developer's ideology to eliminate transparency for users in the platform while keeping everything stored and federated in the back end for the ruling elite, which if and when they decide to, become the arbiters of who can and won't see it. They haven't even bothered to provide any form of recourse to contest it, you basically have to go looking for people yourself. At least until mod member lists are made private too.
I fully agree with their decision, Lemmy is transient at best. ~~They could still include Mbin, but why include a loaded deck?~~ Actually, decided to check, yep, they did, kudos to them, they really did think it through.
Downvote all you want, still ain't gonna change that jointhefediverse.net decision (based as fuck) 😂
- I have no idea what you're even trying to say.
  
  I have no idea why that would be surprising or I should care.

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