Zelenskyy joins Canadian Parliament's ovation to 98-year-old veteran who fought with Nazis
Zelenskyy joins Canadian Parliament's ovation to 98-year-old veteran who fought with Nazis
Certainly they mean against Nazis.
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Oh what the fuck.
Jesus Fuck. I was expecting this was fake, but it's not. Here's the AP article, it's image number 4 in the scroller thingy. Here's that dude's Wikipedia page.
It's one thing when eastern Europe plays it fast and loose with that period of history, but I expect better from my own government.
Zelensky had an Azov Brigade member aka Nazi scum to talk through video call in the Greek parliament early in the war, so that people would show compassion to a warrior and provide aid
So Zelenskyy's crime here is not knowing the identity of every single member of the audience and every word the speaker will say? This sounds a lot like gotcha journalism to me.
Take a look at this video of the happening and tell me how exactly we get to pin the blame on Zelenskyy for this?
Definately unfortunate. Can't even really blame any MPs to speak of. It does reflect on the person or MP that did not vet him properly and put forth for recognition in such a public way
As a side comment, you have to wonder about the soldier himself or his family that would have suggested he be recognized to begin. The government typically does not go looking for these individuals to dish out praise but usually they are made aware of someone thru a close family member or friend. Why would a family or the member himself want to be recognized for their service unless they are still proud of what that meant?
Ukraine is a Nazis wet dream, no matter how racist they are it just doesn't matter. Nazis are getting away with saying horrible things about minorities these days thanks to this stupid conflict
Many peoples were forced by circumstances to fight alongside people they didn’t like.
He volunteered to join the SS. Nobody was forced to join the fucking SS. Did you mean to say "really wanted to fight alongside", and what's your evidence for "people they didn't like"?
SS is not the same as Waffen-SS. The Waffen-SS again had foreign legions. These Waffen-SS foreign legions were volunteers at first, later a mixture of volunteers, voluntolds, conscripts and in the end pressured and/or forced conscripts.
I don’t know about the individual motives of the person in question. But the Waffen-SS foreign legions are too much of a mixed bag to generalize.
In Eastern Europe many joined the Waffen-SS foreign legions to fight against the occupation of their countries by the Soviets. Their values and goals didn’t necessarily align with those of the Nazis, except that they had a common enemy.
Edit: The Waffen-SS was part of the German war machine and they did commit plenty of war crimes. I was commenting to differentiate between two different criminal organizations here (SS/Waffen-SS) and to explain how the recruitment changed as the war went on. It was a mistake on my part to omit this, given the sensibility of the topic. Please do not take my comment as an attempt at whitewashing the numerous crimes of various Waffen-SS units.
Oof, yeah. That puts a kink in it.
Tbh, maybe we should just ask "Does (insert ideology here) tell me to kill the preteen (or for recent events, anyone under the age of majority) children of the supposedly evil people?" and if the answer is yes or "not specifically but I have no recourse if they suddenly tell me to kill kids" then (insert ideology here) is evil.
TL;DR - Not all Nazis
In any case they weren't formally accused of war crimes, but that doesn't mean they weren't committing atrocities in Poland
They spend half of war hunting partisans in Poland, Slovakia and Yugoslavia. They have immense amount of blood of heroes and innocents on their hands.
choose between two imperialist powers
Jesus Christ. Learn what imperialism is FFS. I can't keep cringeing on this ignorant shit.
Seeing liberals do nazi apologia in comment sections in 2023. This bodes well.
"Well ackshully, the Nazis are very nuanced... [goes into a wehraboo rant about the various nazi divisions]"
Edit: mods cleaned it up. Thanks mods. Still scary that's going on.
I'm a Liberal. Fuck Nazis.
Hell yeah! Thanks!
It's just unnerving to see that even the people who invited him are apologizing and admitting it was a mistake, but online there are liberals running cover for a literal nazi.
These commenters don't have to do that. It's not even their L to take. They aren't the ones who invited him. But yet, here they are so dug in they can't admit a mistake that even those involved are admitting they fucked up.
It just makes me uncomfortable how unmoored some people's ideology is.
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Didn't just fight with Nazis. He was a member of the Waffen SS.
He literally was a Nazi.