The period decimal point separator (bottom) is the single example in which Burgerland has a superior formatting system to Eurasia CMV
The period decimal point separator (bottom) is the single example in which Burgerland has a superior formatting system to Eurasia CMV
My reasoning is that the period is a "stronger" punctuation mark than the comma, and it should be used for the more important separation.
If you're going to use commas, just use the Oxford Comma.
110,042,500, and 38
One of those jokes that you laugh really hard at and somebody asks you "what's so funny" and you just feel ashamed at having to explain it in a way that's verbally funny.
10 000 000.0f32gang rise upIn a sentence, the comma denotes a continuation of that sentence, whereas the period means full stop. Why should it be different for numbers?
A comma means you are continuing on the whole part of the number, whereas the period means the whole part is over, now on to the fractional aspect.
I mean, wouldn't that lead you to spaces and commas being the actual choice
after all, both space and commas continue sentences in different ways, but a full stop ends a sentence, so why would you use it in this context to actually continue the same number
:this:
My favorite way to do it is this one:
10'000,00
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> come back to hexbear while taking a Christmas break
> People are once again arguing that Fahrenheit is "objectively" better for laypeople.
Thank you, feels like I've never been gone
I use celsius in everyday interactions with Americans and it's fun to watch their face wrinkle up
I don't know, the period might feel stronger to you because you have already accepted this meaning for text. For others, the comma feels "stronger" in the context of numbers. Partly because they are used to it, but it makes some sense too, because it is larger and has a defined direction. A period is just a little dot and, when written by hand, could easily be mistaken for a random smudge and vice versa an accidental contact of pen to paper could more easily be mistaken for a dot than for a comma.
You're right; it's because of the established meaning. If I were creating a writing system from scratch in a contextless vacuum I'd switch them.
I don't care. Just unify it. If you work with data and databases in an international company it constantly fucks you over. Excel still falls apart when mixing seperators from different sources. It's so utterly dumb that we can't agree on how to write down numbers.
I believe that money should be calculated to more significant digits. Give me micropennies or give me death.
If you write a check for 1.00, it's easier to turn it into 1,000.00 than 1,00 is to 1.000,00
Edit: when you write the tip on a check at a restaurant, it is just one field for the numbers, no words.
A check? Hey grandparent, ever heard of the 21. Century?
You just wrinkled my brain.
That's one of the reasons why they make you write it in words I suppose. Ideally, we shouldn't base our writing system on an outdated payment method.
Numbers existed before checks. Was the formatting system changed when handwritten checks were invented?
Either way it can easily be turned into 1,001.00 or 1.001,00. That's why there's a written out form of the number.
I prefer 1e4
IEEE 754
The dot decimal separator is fine, but the comma should be left as a list separator. As in 3, 4, 10 000.0, 23, etc. So IMO none of them get it right. :)
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No it isn't
So you're saying there are more examples?
There are no examples. More and more people are saying it.
I agree. And in many (most?) South Asian countries its written like 10,000.00
that's not even close to a eurasian thing
also there's way better things where burgerland is better. farenhite, for example, where the range of realistic temperatures goes from 0-100, instead of -17 to 37 (all positive, nice range, and higher resolution)
Fahrenheit is dumb as fuck
realistic temperature
Burgerlander unable to conceive of other countries
higher resolution
Burgerlander unable to conceive of decimal points
If you want a temperature range that is optimised for indicating the weather, you wouldn't use fahrenheit, you'd come up with something not based on "the freezing temperature of a solution of brine made from a mixture of water, ice, and ammonium chloride"
If you want a temperature range that is optimised for indicating the weather, you wouldn't use fahrenheit, you'd come up with something not based on "the freezing temperature of a solution of brine made from a mixture of water, ice, and ammonium chloride"
Poppycock! Next you'll be saying that it doesn't make sense for 100 degrees to be defined by the body temperature of a horse.
Burgerlander unable to conceive of other countries
do you just not know anything about other countries? tropical countries have an even narrower temperature range so Celsius would give them even less resolution
Burgerlander unable to conceive of decimal points
if you're using this logic then we should all just use Kelvin and eliminate the middle man
If you want a temperature range that is optimised for indicating the weather, you wouldn't use fahrenheit, you'd come up with something not based on "the freezing temperature of a solution of brine made from a mixture of water, ice, and ammonium chloride"
absolutely based that that mixture just happened to produce such a great scale (which could be slightly tweaked to perfection, but is still pretty good at the moment)
and higher resolution
Celsius thermostats have temperature adjustments of 0.5° C. This is the first time in over a decade that I've dug up that memory.
Over 40 is deadly, 35-40 is very hot, 30-35 is hot, 25-30 is warm, 20-25 is reasonable room temperature, 15-20 is cool, 10-15 is chilly (threshold of winter layers), 0-10 is cold, below 0 is freezing, below -10 you need multiple layers, below -20 moisture will freeze to your eyebrows and eyelashes and you can feel the air sucking the warmth out of your body.
I pick the nice round numbers and declare them sensible boundaries, then I convert them to the other system and remark! They are ugly numbers! Haha! Truly the superiority of my system is self evident.
Fahrenheit's range of temperatures goes from "salt water starts to freeze" to "slightly higher than body temperature". I guess if you live on the coast the salt water kinda sorta makes sense, but the only thing that makes it seem "realistic" to you is that you use it. Like really, your list of pros is that the numbers are positive - don't ask what happens when the salt water freezees - it's a "nice range" (what is that even suppoosed to mean), and that it's higher resolution, despite humans not being able to tell the difference between 72 and 73°F and scientific instruments using celsius or kelvin instead. It's all nonsense american exceptionalism.
but the only thing that makes it seem "realistic" to you is that you use it
nah, it's the fact that 95% of the places where 95% of people live, will 95% of the time be between 0-100 on an F scale
-5 F is "really fucking cold"
-5 C is just an average temperate winter's dayhilarious that people are offended by this for whatever reason. The only legitimate reason would be if you're from a tropical country where differences between 93 and 94 F start making a huge difference, and you'd be better served by a different scale, but Celsius would be even worse at that.
despite humans not being able to tell the difference between 72 and 73°F
The celsius blind spot is bigger than that, and the "feelability" of small temp differences is higher at certain ranges
I'm a chemist so I like celsius.
I know Europe uses the decimal comma. I threw Asia in there because I assumed they had mix of everything I guess.
as someone who grew up using the comma, I agree. Mostly because it's easier for computers to parse
How is it easier? Computers don't care if it's U+002E or U+002C, it's literally a one character difference in code no matter how you parse it
The only one that can cause problems for parsing is the space, and even then you should be able to parse it in a context where it matters
yeah "easier" was not the right word. I meant comma has been historically used as a seperator for lists of values(which I think makes a lot of sense).
It's not really just one character tho since with comma as a decimal point separator, something like "100,200" can be interpreted either as a number or a list of two number. For example with Excel, geniuses at microsoft decided to replace comma with a semicolon for some localizations which makes the program really annoying to use across multiple languages
Edit: sorry I'm very sleep deprived so I'm not sure if any of it makes sense. To clarify: I'm assuming that comma as list separator makes sense because there is essentially no debate over "comma" vs "some other list separator", however there is such a debate for decimal separator. Having the same symbol mean two different things makes text harder to parse
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