Justice should be equal

"because their lives don't matter as much as CEOs"

This is the defining moment. This is our future

My personal tinfoil hat is that they are seeking the death penalty so he accepts a deal. They are scared of jury nullification.

The state of New York is about to get a firsthand lesson in the Streisand Effect. They should have just charged him the same charge any normal killer would get - Second Degree Murder, which is the normal charge for premeditated murder in NY. First degree requires rare special circumstances, and the prosecutor chose to use a dubious "terrorism" modifier to up the charge to Murder 1. They just couldn't help themselves, and they shot themselves in the foot.

The advantage to the prosecution to a simple Murder 2 charge is that motive really doesn't matter much. They just have to prove that Luigi pulled the trigger. But with the terrorism modifier, the trial will no devolve into lengthy discussions about his motives and message. Not only have they now given him the world's largest soapbox, but this will also give the defense an opportunity to make him much more sympathetic to the jury. With only a Murder 2 charge, the defense lawyer would have had to fight hard to sneak subtle hints into trial about Luigi's motives. Now his motives will be a core part of the prosecution's case.

With a simple Murder 2 trial, even jurors who thought Thompson got what he deserved could vote to convict based simply on the letter of the law. Luigi killed an evil man, but he still has to face the consequences like any other criminal. Now the jury will clearly see that the system isn't treating him like any other criminal. The prosecutors, through their own actions, are making Luigi's case for him - the justice system is completely rigged in favor of the rich and powerful, and the only way they can ever be held accountable is through violence.

All it takes is one juror of twelve to look around at the situation and say, "this is bullshit. I'm not going to convict." Sure, they can try him again with a new jury if he's not found unanimously not-guilty, but that jury will have an even greater risk of jury nullification. The longer this goes on, the more likely the prosecutor just has to offer him some sweetheart plea deal just to get him convicted of something. And each trial just elevates Mangione that much closer to literal Sainthood in the popular imagination.

Because it's about sending a message. They've seen how popular this guy and his actions have become and are trying to throw everything at him so it puts off any copycats.

The comparison is definitely stupid because this guy planned the whole thing! Its not like he accidentally started a rebellion in an accidentally treasonous way while trying to steal the office of a high government official. Everyone knows the punishment for that is ...another 4 years of government.

They really gonna try to turn this guy into a martyr?

Good luck finding a jury to convict him of jaywalking.

Some homicides are self defence.

I do believe it would be a tactical error on their part to give him the death penalty... make a real martyr

MILDLY infuriating??!?

An interesting factoid. In Finnish language "väkivalta" means violence. It is a combination word:

väki = people, crowd, folk

valta = power, reign

Land of Double Standards.

Pulling an excerpt from George Carlin: "Politicians hide behind three things in this country: The Flag, The Bible and Children. No child left behind! It wasn't long ago you were talking about giving children a headstart. Headstart, Left Behind. Someone's losing fucking ground here."

US citizens, are you planning to protest?

This is a dumb take. Since 2005 you cannot use capital punishment for minors see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roper_v._Simmons

Most school shooters are under 18, Luigi is 26.

Shouldn't there be leniency for killing a killer?
Yes I know it's about "sending a message", but messages go both ways.

And now that Republicans are set to have the Presidency, Congress and SCOTUS all at the same time, there doesn't seem to be any barriers left.

Abolish capital punishment!

New York doesn't have the death penalty though?

Yes there are double standards but this is the wrong comparison to make that point.

Most school shooters are minors who are inelligible for the death penalty, and a large percentage don't survive their own shooting. Either death by cop or suicide.

I have no love for insurance CEOs or our capital-first justice system, but if you're gonna make a point don't leave it open to be so easily picked apart.

This you shall offer in the morning and this you shall offer at twilight, a lamb without blemish.

Maybe they should charge his parents too, like they did with some other school shooters. But wait, his parents are rich and the other ones lived in trailer parks.

Because most school shooters aren't adults.

It's because he crossed state lines?

We're just going to ignore that school shooters are generally minors and thus not treated the same as adults? Okay then.

What religion this mr. Mangione represented?

I love bow this meme gets fact checked and the thesis get tighter.

Brian Thompson is a parasite, no empathy for them

I wonder why executioners don't get doxxed.

Doesn't make sense to compare a rate of an outcome (without even knowing how often that outcome was sought) with an individual attempt whose outcome is not even known yet.

When Mangione IS actually given the death penalty, this 'argument' will actually amount to something. Dumb until then.

FFS, it's not even him, people need to stop accepting he is the killer. He is not, news made sure that pics from the killing footage were buried so people would forgot them, because when you compare them with Luigi, its obviously NOT him... And there is no doubt here, killer is smaller, whiter (like Irish white), slim eyebrows, and less muscle body shape than Luigi.

Why do people try to make him a martyr, when it is not even the killer.

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