Ah yes the paradox of knowledge. The more you learn, the more you learn how much more there is to learn
Intellectual curiosity is the true barometer; you either thirst to know more, or you're content with ignorance.
Eventually you realize you forget almost as much as you learn, it's like a bilge pump in a sinking boat. Then you focus on what you want to remember and come to acceptance with that.
Ah yes. I am truly a thirsty knowledge bitch.
you know it!
There is a third way!
You thirst to know more but have a soul crushing deficit of self esteem and truly believe you're incapable of anything more than menial labor. You remain with your thirst, not content with your ignorance, but unable to overcome the self image of "absolute moron with no place in the scientific community who must be narcissistic for even thinking he could be" and so you grow to hate yourself even more because of it!
...Err.... Or so my friend says.
The more I learn, the better I understand Monthy Pythons song about how sweet it is to be an idot
Everyone is just making it up as we go along.
Be skeptical of anyone who claims they have the answer.
42!
But who has the question?!
:P
There's such a thing as knowledge, which qualifies you to do some Job's better than the rest. Keep that in mind.
I was arguing with a engineer two weeks ago about systems. I never met him before. But he had a few drinks and interrupted our conversation. And I nearly lost my shit because of how confident this guy was speaking, saying obvious things and being vague, while not saying anything at all. Like, "This system isn't good at all! We should all follow Clean Code principles!"
Then someone pulled me aside and said, "Go easy on the guy. He's only been in the industry for a year."
And I did feel bad. But also like, my dude... You are going to wake up to realizing you know nothing about everything.
You are going to wake up to realizing you know nothing about everything.
I wish I had your optimism about humanity.
This guy sounds like management material.
whatever happened to intellectual humility? just because you're experiencing acute Dunning-Kruger doesn't mean you have to go raining on somebody else's parade about how they "know nothing". Maybe they're right, maybe you're an arrogant fool, maybe you really are as stupid as you think you are so you should stfu and let someone else imagine a little. People like you bug. Just because you've realized how stupid you are doesn't mean you need to go shoving it down other's throats in a desperate bid to salvage your ego.
Best to read the comment you're replying to before going on a tirade - this guy drunkenly interrupted OPs conversation to lecture them, it's a proportionate response, even if maybe not optimal
shut up
Coming out of my undergrad I definitely did not feel that. I think it should be relabeled to high-school and undergrad is I feel SO dumb
wisdom is understanding what we dont know
The more you know, the more you know what you don't know. People who know nothing often think they know everything.
I've forgotten more than I know.
"All I know is that I know nothing."
that's more than some people who think they know everything.
My all time favorite "Stig Fact" from Top Gear is
"They say that he knows only two things about ducks..and both of them are wrong"
Which would arguably qualify as knowing less than nothing about ducks 😁
Whenever I see this quote (or others like it) I hear it read in Bill's voice from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
Bill : Socrates [SOH -crates]- ' the only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing.
Ted: Dude, that's us!
That's it, no discussion.
There's people who don't understand what that means.
Perhaps they are they wisest of all.
I think it's a general thing with highly capable persons in expert and highly intellectual domains that eventually you kinda figure out what Socrates actually meant with "All I know is that I know nothing"
I feel like that sentiment is easily reached by anyone who is curious and likes to learns, so a lot of people.
If one thinks a lot, likes to learn and, maybe more important, thinks about knowledge and learning things, that person will probably get there.
A certain educational background probably helps but is neither required nor sufficient, IMHO.
I have come to realize a PhD just means you have spent a lot of time thinking about what you are doing.
Doesn't mean what you are doing is smart really. Just well thought about.
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I already knew that I and everyone is dumb before my undergrad. Am I smart?
I think you're more wise than smart?
Hard no.
I disagree. Most people seem dumb, but there are select few which are incredibly genius.
Like, I heard of a model theorist who produces quality papers every month or so. Then there is also Andrew Wiles, who proved Fermat's last theorem through labyrinth of Langlands. The complexity and depth of the field is just insane.
basically everyone is smart about some things, and a few people end up in situations where they can apply themselves to the thing they're smart at.
Yes, balanced on the other end by billions of mouth-breathing maroons.
Me at 34 with no post secondary education: I wish i could afford to goto school
Masters level living in that PhD level mindset. We a bunch of dumb animals
We totally aren't.
the more you know, the more you know how little anyone knows anything
IMO, all three of these statements are correct.
Graduated and am working as a junior engineer and I basically feel like I have a mountain of stuff I need to learn, I can see I've grown since I started a year ago but man is there still so much for me to learn
I've been this way my whole life. I learn something new and realize I don't know shit.
It doesn't get better, which is the good way. Ever met a self declared highly intelligent person?
I think the difference is that some people spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to make the same realization.
This also tracks for programming.
Tbh in programming that is a healthy attitude to have. If you assume everyone who handles your code in the future, including yourself, is a dumbass, it makes you write more reliable and transparent code.
Hey, the only reason you choose to think that way is... bc it is objectively true.:-|
wisdom is understanding what we dont know
When you're smart, you don't need to learn
That might be the least smart thing anyone has said today.
