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Eat What You Kill: A hospital helped a doctor’s practice flourish even as it suspected he was hurting patients

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A Hospital Helped a Beloved Doctor’s Practice Flourish Even as It Suspected He Was Hurting Patients
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  • Adding to a six-figure base salary, his pay was calculated by the number of relative value units, or RVUs, he billed on behalf of the hospital. The system compensates doctors using weighted values for certain types of visits or treatment. It works like this: A doctor might be paid $100 per RVU. A routine physical might be equal to 1 RVU, or $100; a more complicated and time-consuming procedure like radiation therapy might equal 8 RVUs, or $800. In other words, the more patient visits and treatments a doctor bills to insurance, the more that doctor and the hospital earn. Weiner described this system, which is common in American medicine, as “eat what you kill.”

    Jesus Christ.

    • I learned this a few years ago. Because my condition is lifelong and degenerative, my RVH is quite high, and so my value to insurers and doctors/hospitals has a very low ROI. My care has degraded quite obviously as my condition has deteriorated, to the point I’ve decided I’d rather die at home than bother with healthcare at this point. And I can’t afford it anyhow. That sucks, but I’ve got medical PTSD now, and I don’t want to put myself through the indignity anymore. (eta: I don’t think I deserve the indignity anymore.)

      I’m by far not alone in this. I used to be a very productive member of society, and I still could be if I could get even passable healthcare, but I can’t because the system has broken me. I have very in-demand skills that I can’t use, and instead , I’m staring down homelessness now. I cannot afford food.

      This system is wasting people’s potential and lives. I will not survive this administration. I likely won’t make it another year.

      The US medical system wants me to die, and I feel my compatriots have now voted to accelerate that. I honestly don’t know why I’m still fighting. I feel like I shouldn’t.

      I get why the shooter did this. Our lives mean less than nothing. These executives can’t even imagine what it’s like to be using washcloths because you can’t even afford toilet paper.

      Eat what you kill indeed. I have a nice recipe for a pork sauce. Humans have been called ‘long pork’.

    • In 2019, two nurses and a pharmacist questioned a Weiner order to apply a fentanyl patch on a 93-year-old woman who was already on opioids and bobbing in and out of consciousness. A nurse texted Weiner to ask whether he was sure. Weiner responded, “Tell them put it on or I will rip their lips off.” Weiner told me this was “an inside joke.”

      What an article.

      Federal regulators also failed to address alarming trends. An analysis of Medicare drug data shows that, from 2013 to 2020, Weiner’s volume of opioid prescriptions ranked ninth among all cancer doctors who bill the program. When it came to morphine, Weiner consistently ranked among the top five. In 2017, he prescribed more morphine than any other cancer doctor. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services did not respond to questions.

      [...]

      If a patient wants CPR or a machine to keep them breathing, they elect to be a “full code.” Weiner, the hospital said, had a pattern of altering, without consent, a patient’s status from full code to a DNR/DNI, do not resuscitate and do not intubate.

      [...]

      If the residents of Helena had seen those files, they would know how Weiner built a high-volume business that billed as much as possible to public and private insurance, all the while sending numerous patients through a carousel of unnecessary and life-threatening treatments. They would have learned that the hospital had financial incentives to look away.

      [...]

      When I asked Weiner why the hospital would publicly accuse him of various types of malpractice but withhold its concerns about his end-of-life care, he said it’s because administrators knew what he was doing and even encouraged it.

    • Yeah, this dude is the worst kind of scum.

    • RVUs are supposed to measure how much work something takes, so it's literally just paying someone based on how much work they do. If you're not actually doing the work, or are doing work that shouldn't be done, that's certainly a problem, but I don't think RVUs existing is a problem in and of itself.

  • So that was a long ass article but worth the read.

    Obviously the author is one of integrity which doesn't exist in most media. Reading between it all, I noticed there was something that bothered me far more than the Hospital clearly covering it up, or Weiner outright murdering his patients:

    The doctors who brought all of this forward and went through appropriate channels were all suppressed.

    A non-profit hospital is a start. And I appreciate the "concerns of patient comfort." But there were so many doctors concerned about the standard of care and likely malpractice, yet nothing is able to be done about it? The 16 year old had a massive tumor missed two weeks prior, and Warwick never had cancer to begin with?

    Are we talking about corruption of one doctor? Or are we talking about corruption of a whole system? Medicine needs to be science. Since the doctors come together on a consensus that Weiner was not providing standard of care, then the doctors need the authority to remove him from that position.

    This has money and power written all over it.

    I get the feeling it's the same in most industries. "Upper leadership" is a problem that needs to be dealt with. Not just executives, but it's a start. Management will destroy this planet because that's the best ROI.

  • Hmm... Nice timing for this article.

    I heard there is an adjuster roaming America and he doesn't like what the health industry is doing.

    Cheers!

  • Greed. Does he need a visit from an adjudicator?

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