2y ago

The Best Way to Find Out If Someone Is a Trump Voter? Ask Them What They Think About Manhood.

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2y ago

The Best Way to Find Out If Someone Is a Trump Voter? Ask Them What They Think About Manhood.

www.politico.com /news/magazine/2023/07/14/masculinity-polling-00105414

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spaduf @lemmy.blahaj.zone

2y ago

The Best Way to Find Out If Someone Is a Trump Voter? Ask Them What They Think About Manhood.

www.politico.com /news/magazine/2023/07/14/masculinity-polling-00105414

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I can usually spot the stream of drool a few yards out.
i feel like really the best way to find out is to ask them
- Not really, my parents voted for him twice, and will vote for him again, but they are very careful around me to act like they would not.
  
  "Well, they're all pretty bad" seems to me to mean "I vote against my self interests"
  
  It's a funny thing to watch, people that want to like T but don't want to be associated with the absolute chucklefucks that make up the red cap contingent amonst them, so it ends up this "yeah, but shhh!" kind of state.
  
  And you call yourself reality boy? Clearly your parents are creating a fantasy for you.
  Knowing that my father voted for trump twice doesn't feel nice. Luckily I live in a different country.
  
  Well, they know you're intelligent...
  While, there are outliers, it's pretty easy to trip up a Trumpet into revealing they're a Trumper.
  One of my go to's is to make a statement the seems to support Trump but get a detail wrong. A Trumper will immediately correct you
- To be clear, the article is talking about correlations in polling, not suggesting you strike up conversations with your neighbors.
  
  not suggesting you strike up conversations with your neighbors.
  I don't know, maybe we should be doing that more often...
  
  not suggesting you strike up conversations with your neighbors
  oh thank god
  
  there has to be a “who fid you vote for” poll to correlate against, no?
While I differ from conservatives on most issues, I actually agree with them on some aspects of the gender war. Feminism does demonize men in its efforts to champion women sometimes, and it’s been a rather frustrating and depressing experience to see that most liberals seem totally blind to what I see as superficially subtle, but very clear signs in popular media and politics. As examples, I’d point to the recent Barbie film, which portrays men as buffoonish caricatures of patriarchal stereotypes a perhaps a bit dated moment in politics from a decade back, wherein Barrack Obama celebrated in a speech women making up 60% of college graduates.
I obviously won’t be voting Republican, but I really do hope the Left reigns in the misandry and finds a way to advocate for women without shitting on men.
- oh, look-- it works!
- the recent Barbie film, which portrays men as buffoonish caricatures
  If there's one thing men hate, it's being funny in comedy movies.
- On the flip side of things, we have nearly a century of movies treating women as largely useless, fragile creatures who don't do anything of importance, so let's balance that on the scales while we're at it perhaps.
  
  This identifies two problems, and doesn't negate the original problem (two wrongs make a right fallacy). Let's work to fix both problems.
  
  Demonizing men doesn't help women. I'm all for addressing women's issues, including how they're represented in popular media, but representing men poorly is a totally unnecessary part of that. Do you think the solution to the legacy of slavery is for Blacks to enslave Whites for 150 years? To balance the scales? What a bullshit notion.
- the term "satire" is begging your acquaintance
- It's a movie.
- oh, look, it works!
- This is why I think it's so shortsighted for people to aim for "swinging the pendulum the other way". What we should aim for is the actual future we want, not the just inversion of our current problems.
  
  Agreed. Doing so just keeps the pendulum swinging.
- Conservative's chief flaw is their love of dishonesty and contempt for honesty. Liberal's chief flaw is that they sometimes point the outrage machine at the wrong target.
- Yeah you're right, women aren't doing their movement right, they should let men do it for them since they'll do it right
  
  If it's being run by people like you, who can't even read a civil comment on the internet and respond in a civil fashion, I think it's doomed no matter what gender you are.

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