‘We have to blow it up’: can never-Trumpers retake the Republican party?

I find it a bit strange to call a person who voted for Trump a "never-trumper"

I know that people can change their mind, and I do applaud her for at least only voting for him once, but a "never-trumper" ???

If Trump loses, I don't know that there will be a Republican party. The top people all hate each other and the only thing that unites them is brown-nosing Trump. They will tear the party apart all trying to replace him.

Maybe y'all shouldn't have made it so hard for third parties to run.

Trump happened because large segments of US voters feel disenfranchised and resentful, as they feel they have been left behind and that their lives have been made worse by the policies of the political establishment and experts. If said political establishment and the experts want to end the Trump movement and prevent something similar from happening again, they're going to have to address the concerns of dissatisfied voters. I don't really think either party knows how to go about doing that.

I think part of the reason for that is there's still significant discussion about what has caused so many Americans to become so unhappy with leadership, and you can't really come up with a solution until you correctly identify the problem. I still don't think the experts have a very good grasp on why Americans are upset. Until they figure it out, they can't come up with a solution, and until they come up with a solution, movements like Trumpism are still very possible.

No. The Republican Party is now a cult devoted to a person. The party will not be able to move on until that person is out of the picture.

The brand is kind of poisoned, they should abandon it, let the wackos have it, and come up with something new.

Are they going to rebuild or they just trying to migrate and take over the Democratic Party? We have this tendency to assume that this country is going to be two parties just as they are right now for the rest of our time but parties have changed in America many times. Hell, these two parties virtually swap places once. Nothing says it can't happen again.

Nope. Assuming that Trump loses (which I had thought was a foregone conclusion, but genocide and stupidity is a hell of a drug).....

People like being on the winning team. And having lost the popular vote three times in a row, Trumpism will start to fade. Republicans will switch to the Democrat party, cementing the current rightwards shift. Imagine the Democrats being pro-border in 2020? 2022?

The only silver lining is that in 8 to 10 years we might actually see a progressive party emerge.

If Trump wins, we get faster genocide plus Fascism at home, so at least there's that to look forward to. Hope you're practicing how to be a straight cis white male Christian because it's going to be a rough time for everyone else.

But hey, Jill Stein won't get that check from Putin unless you vote for her and Cornel West has alimony payments to make.

If trump loses? Yeah. They will. He is already going extra senile and has spent the past eight years proving he can't get downballot candidates elected.

Which will get us back to bush era republicans. Basically buying us maybe another decade until they transition from "we need to fight crime and promote family values" to "let's murder some brown people and enslave women" again.

Would be wonderful if Steele only succeeds in creating a center-right party, with the GOP still existing as far-right, giving the Democrats (who now have permission to move left) a leg-up in the future.

How about not having a party that did everything possible to get us to this place. I want what the dems are now to be as far to the right as this country is willing to go.

Within a year or two of Trump dying they will have the party back under control and everyone will be taking marching orders from only the megadonors again.

The only reason the maga nutjobs got tontake center stage was Trump saying the horrible shit out loud with the delivery that some people wanted to hear. The fact that nobody has upstaged him is a good sign that there isn't a similar person waiting in the wings to fill his role.

Why would they want to? They have all but taken over the democratic party. The US now has OG republicans and the new world fascist party.

The current Dem standce on immigration is wild.. not the wall is a weird idea.. no they now say trump is just ineffective in building it.

We have to blow this crazy-ass party up and have it regain its senses

You all going back to Eisenhower years then? The rot has been in the party for a long time, Trump is just the final result, not a cause.

NOPE!

Hogan is a great example. I actually wasn't upset when he won his second term as governor, even though I disagree with some of his policies - but in general he did some good stuff for Maryland during his terms. Like getting masks and covid test kits in secrecy so Trump's idiots wouldn't confiscate them, as happened elsewhere in the country.

I'll never forgive him for axing the bike lane on the new Nice Bridge; we're stuck with that decision for at least 50 years now. But, by far, my biggest problem with Hogan is the "R" after his name.

Those third-party organizations are running ads that say things like, "I voted for Hogan, but not this time - we can't let the Republicans gain power in Congress." (Other organizations are noting "scandals" for the other candidate about taking tax breaks to which she wasn't entitled, but they seem overblown. It seems pretty silly coming from supporters of the party of George Santos, Matt Gaetz, and how many others...)

There's a middle ground. The near future of the party is Ron DeSantis and JD Vance, the smoothed down versions of Trump. I don't think that works and someone new will come out fully populist with authoritarian edges, maybe a Hispanic man to help attract the working class beyond just white people, that seems to be the growth opportunity Republicans need and maybe that solidifies Arizona/Nevada/Texas for them while they put all the effort into the Blue Wall and North Carolina.

This also applies to much of the left. It’s because the US is an oligarchy and doesn’t have representation that is proportional

I think the JD Vance "I'm a never Trumper" clip has kind of killed the title, no?