linked article is what has convinced me he's got it in the bag. the wapo/nyt libs are exactly as insufferable as they were in 2016 and the results will the identical. he'll win for all the same reasons he did the first time and libs, having learned absolutely nothing, will make all the same complaints and tear their hair out trying to figure out what happened. watching the most performatively irritating people on earth eat crow is going to be absolutely
and i don't even have to feel bad about laughing because kamala's policies are literally identical to trumps, so its not even like theres gonna be additional palestinians/trans people/women who are suffering because of it
It's wild how often liberals will say they "support" something while actively working against it. Support/care in their mind just means they feel sad about it I guess
I think it was split. Lots of people here argued that we should vote for him for the sake of "harm reduction".
The main argument was covid, abortion, queer rights, the massive riots going on with people being disappeared in black vans and foreign policy. Lol. Lmao even.
(There was also pushback on this, but I am just trying to say that hexbear was not united on the election)
But @FunkyStuff@hexbear.net if you would just look at my handy graph here you will see that (excluding groceries, utilities and housing) prices are actually going down (by which I mean they are increasing slower) and (excluding a few select sectors) wages are going up! (Almost putting them at the level they were at several years ago, calculated for inflation) Also the stock market is doing great! (Excluding the billions lost on cryptocurrency and the billions that will be lost on AI and the billion-dollarvaluation of Intel and the fact we're growing by less than we're spending)
We will instantly see all the libs who were SCREAMING about kids in cages at the border during COVID's early years suddenly start SCREAMING about the genocide of the Palestinians.
Libs who were SCREAMING about the end of the occupation of Afghanistan will suddenly start SCREAMING about how the war in Ukraine needs to end.
Libs who were SCREAMING about "Medicare for All", who stopped talking about it because it would 'scare the conservative liberal voters away', will suddenly start howling about it again.
Suddenly, all the anti-Iran sabre rattling will be "uncool" again.
I think it's 50/50 wether they suddenly grow a conscience or start chanting for the murder of leftists for the crime of not voting for someone they've been told does not need their vote nor wants it
Nah, the left won’t get blamed because doing so would give us a ton of power. If Kamala loses they will blame anyone except leftists and everything except Gaza.
Libs who were SCREAMING about the end of the occupation of Afghanistan will suddenly start SCREAMING about how the war in Ukraine needs to end
Yes. But their plan to end it will be to deploy the US Army and start a no-fly-zone over Eastern Ukraine, ratcheting up tensions and escalating the conflict.
I know this is idealism, but I honestly think part of it is also that dems aren't genuine. Like they are more effective fascists - People in mass aren't opposing them when they do things like mass deportations or the pipeline over indegenous land. They are better at doing fashy stuff. But you can just tell they don't really care, there's no real motivation behind apart from just pure powerlust.
Whereas the republicans have some real psychos.
I think Dem voters are often genuine in that they worry about the world and have empathy and want a world with less suffering. But Dem politicians? Definitely not genuine. This is why they aren't effective. They say the right things to convince Dem voters that they will do good, but doing good is never the real intention. It's all just a marketing ploy and Dem voters fall for it like clockwork every single election
I'm curious if the high ranking Dems will suddenly start noticing Israel's extermination campaign or if they decide "Actually, Trump is so presidential this time, how surprising" like they did that week when he drone struck Suleimani
they will complain loudly about his incompetence and unwillingness to wag is finger vigorously enough at bibi while they continue signing the checks for more bombs
It can really go either way but Dems will likely eat shit if they win or lose. We already know what happens if they lose. They could also win and then try the same strategy again against a non-Trump candidate, only to lose.
I disagree. the last time Trump won the chuds killed Heather Heyer (not funny). the last time Trump lost a few of them killed themselves (extremely funny)
I’d not be surprised if Dems win the popular vote, they really are try-harding on it. I’m waiting for some electoral college/vote cert shenanigans that hands it to Trump.
Then again, I’d not be surprised if Kopmala wins it in popular and EC and just does nothing beyond instituting a gentler wing of fascism.