Ford lays off 600 workers at plant targeted by UAW strike
Ford lays off 600 workers at plant targeted by UAW strike
Ford is laying off workers while the UAW is striking against Ford, GM, and Stellantis. This is getting complicated.
Ford lays off 600 workers at plant targeted by UAW strike::Ford is laying off workers while the UAW is striking against Ford, GM, and Stellantis. This is getting complicated.
It's not complicated. It's just a really dumb move.
Ford said "It's not a lock out". Yeah.. tell me the difference then. They just don't want to acknowledge that they're even playing the game - or maybe they don't understand.
If they want to do layoffs in every department that is affected by the strikes they will shut down faster than the strikes could do it. They're literally helping the union shut down the company, except they'll make it more difficult for themselves to reopen once an agreement is done.
The UAW already announced that they'd do stand up strikes, which despite the new name is a good old strategy of moving the strikes to whatever area or department they want to shut down today.
With these two strategies up against each other, I think the outcome is already determined.
Ford can not win this by laying off people. It's not like the union will suddenly back down just because Ford says: "lOOk aT wHaT yOU mADE me dO!!11" while it hurt itself in the confusion.
or maybe they don’t understand
They totally do, and the execs are panicking, but historically companies could just have people arrested for striking, or shoot them, so right now they don’t know what to do except try other scare tactics. They’ll try anything before cutting into their “record profits”
Then this is as good a time as any to show them that bullying does not work.
The strike didn't fire 600 people. Ford fired 600 people and tried to blame it on the strike.
I think the UAW planned for these layoffs. What is Ford suppose to do with all the workforce standing around when the supply chain has been cut and halted on strategic sections. The whole assembly line is down, not just the striking workers. They were counting on Unemployment benefits from the government to stretch out the UAW fund to it's maximum. This move puts Ford in a much tighter squeeze and will probably help leverage the negotiations on behalf of the UAW. Also, the public eye will frown upon the big 3 by laying off workers. On top of losing sales and market they will hurt their reputation which will be the costlier of them all. It seems that the UAW is prepping for the long haul. Let's go workers!!!
I just hope that this gets resolved quickly and favorably because all of the industry (supply chain all the way to the bottom) will hurt because of this.
I’ll never buy a ford then.
You shouldn’t anyway. Their vehicles are terrible.
I had a 2003 Ranger that was in tip top shape. I was the only owner and regularly took it in for oil changes and maintenance. Sitting at a stop sign one night on my way home from work and the engine starts knocking out of the blue. Piston fucked and the engine is completely shot. That was like 1-2 months after a full tune up.
My mom had a Ford Focus. As soon as it was out of warranty, everything on that car went south. The electronics, the transmission, everything. That car was a massive piece of shit.
tl;dr - Ford fucking sucks.
Weird. My 2009 Ranger with 160k miles still pulls its 31 inch tires at over 90mph to the beach just fine. My old Focist ST took a hell of a beating cause I drove it like it was stolen and it was fine too.
But because you must be right. All ford's suck.
Solid job providing evidence and not a story from 20 years ago 🙄.
Anecdotal
My ranger did almost the exact same thing, ended up being totaled. Part of me wants another one but I don't like the new style and the used old rangers are so expensive, especially considering the fact that my first one just up and died lol
I’m thinking of the mid-2000s Exploder that had a widely-known transmission fault that would put the tranny into a permanent fault mode where the transmission light would flash and the gearing was noisy/weird. Ford’s response was “out of warranty, sorry not sorry”. Drove it nearly 100k miles like that. EDIT: forgot about the Focus that wrapped its hood around my windshield when I was in the left lane of a highway going 80 mph.
Not defending Ford here. But we need to be supporting union workers by choosing union made products and services. Those that are saying they won’t buy a Ford now, that’s your choice, but I hope you’re doing your research and at least considering other automobiles that are union instead. Here is a 2023 list of all the UAW built vehicles: https://uaw.org/solidarity_magazine/2023-uaw-union-built-vehicle-guide/amp/
Yeah I wanted a Chevy bolt because that’s the union made electric compact. I won’t buy a struck vehicle but I’ll never buy a non union new vehicle if I can help it. Purchasing non union products is the same as purchasing products from companies retaliating against a union, the only difference is the retaliators haven’t won yet.
Good point
Is it bad that I would rather buy a vehicle from the 90's because it doesn't have all this bs in it that 1. makes it harder to repair myself and 2. Just feels weird to drive (mainly talking the fly by wire style that modern cars are using, I want to feel the feedback on my gas pedal).
No, I like old cars too for the same reasons
No, it's definitely not bad to think that.
(Source: I own four cars made in the '90s, for much the same reason.)
Oh, wow! That’ll show those rascally workers! I’m sure the strikes will conclude uneventfully now!
/s
If they can prove the layoffs are retaliation, can't the workers sure them? Or does that only apply to the initial action of unionisation?
It's not illegal to fire workers who don't show up for work, even if that's part of a union action.
Protections against retaliation are just for joining a union, not striking.
There are actually protections for striking according to the NLRB "depending on the purposes and means of the strike action."
I believe if it's an unsanctioned wildcat strike they can fire without it being retaliation, but if it's a strike backed by the NLRB they have to prove it isn't retaliation and I don't think the days gone by an official strike counts here. I could be wrong but that is what I remember about wildcat strike differences
That's interesting - in Australia we do have 'protected action' that can be taken when bargaining. Basically each workplace in a union has a vote to strike (endorsed by the fair work commission) and if it gets up any action taken is protected from retaliation.
It depends on the kind of strike. Workers that strike over a company's unfair labor practice are protected from permanent replacements. This is not that tho. While they are far apart, I don't think they can accuse the companies of refusing to negotiate.
Of course if the union wins the strike then no replacement.
And this is one of the reasons they're striking in the first place.
Fuck these fat cats! Take'em for all they're worth UAW!
Poking the UAW with a stick may not work the way Ford thinks it will.
With Ford and GM both doing this, do I need to buy a Dodge? Ugh.
Toyota man. Shit never stops running if you even sort of take care of it. If you're trying to stay with US built then most of their cars sold in US are made here. In 2017 their US sales were:
Built in America 56%
Built in Canada 25%
Built in Mexico 6%
Built outside N.A. 13% (Mostly Lexus Models)
Making cars in the US makes no sense. The cost of living is too high. It's much easier to make them in Mexico and ship them.
Yeah, we shouldn’t make anything expensive in the US. We should make them abroad and then the unemployed hordes will buy those goods!
Your statement is too stupid to be anything but a troll.
non-Americans can buy stuff too. Not everything gets made for America.
You'd have a point, if it weren't for the fact that you're targeting the wrong issues.
Fuck off you dork.
Fuck off, tankie.