The US Isn’t Moving Right — the Democrats Are
The US Isn’t Moving Right — the Democrats Are
As the Kamala Harris campaign lurches rightward, pundits want us to believe she’s just following the will of the voters. The facts don’t bear that out.
The Dems have moved so far to the right that what used to be the far-right (Bush/Cheney) now supports them
This is all you need to know about the Democratic Party. How many years before they make Trump look sane?
The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.
- Julius Nyerere
The dems have already rehabilitated GWB, McCain, and Cheney. It's a trueism that the democrats of today are the republicans of 20 years ago.
current day libs will have rehabilitated trump sometime in the next 20 years. I am willing to bet every dollar I own on that. it will happen, just like bush and cheney have been rehabilitated.
I do think Bush/Cheney etc are also moving away from DJT.
10 years ago I used to bring up how Biden was one of the biggest proponents of the murderous drug war and the police militarization that came with it, and how he should never be president because of all the blood on his hands. I used to get called extreme for it
Just a few months ago it was impossible to criticize this old segregationist rapist. The two US political parties are worse than cults.
As are the Republicans. In a country with only two ruling parties, that means the country is. It's quite simple.
Have been my entire life.
It may well turn out that humanity chases itself towards more and more hate and scapegoating as they make the world they live in less liveable.
Affordable Care Act, LGBTQ rights, marijuana reform...not to mention a Black man was president, and a Black woman is the party nominee.
Yeah, it sucks that progress is so slow, and yeah, it sucks that some things have gone backwards. But there has been a huge amount of progress in the past however-many years. We went from "don't ask, don't tell" to having a Catholic president openly support gay marriage in a relatively short time.
Using Harris' Glock anecdote as evidence the party is moving to the right is just lazy editorializing IMHO. Almost as lazy as just asserting that the party is moving to the left because of the issues that you decided illustrate the left-right difference...
Affordable Care Act, LGBTQ rights, marijuana reform…not to mention a Black man was president, and a Black woman is the party nominee.
Oh do lgbt people have more rights now? Oh fuck, I'll let my trans refugee friends know.
The fact that your trans refugee friends continue to suffer is deplorable, but does not mean lgbt don't have more rights now. You're employing the same fallacy that anti-vaxxers use when they say it's pointless to get a vaccine when it doesn't 100% guarantee protection from the illness. Things are better for some people and still desperately need to improve for many others.
Yeah child, they do have more rights. Jesus fucking Christ. Let me take you back to the 80s and 90s with me. Trans people were so far in the closet we didn't have that word. And if your were openly gay, which pretty much no one was, that was an ass beating.
I'm sorry you're an angry child with no historical perspective, but STFU, please. You little snots whimpering about change not being fast enough are making it worse. Your non-stop crying is giving the other side ammo.
Affordable Care Act, LGBTQ rights, marijuana reform...not to mention a Black man was president, and a Black woman is the party nominee.
You forgot that the black woman is also the sitting vice president.
more 👏 representation 👏 in 👏 the 👏 oppressor 👏 class 👏
How does that meme go?
"I hear the next [drones] will be sent by a woman" "Really makes you feel like you're part of history"
Black people becoming head executors of a white supremacist, imperialist state is not actually progress. Hillary being elected would not have been progress just because she was a woman. Her individual careerism and cynical exploitation of being a woman does not help the average woman, it just helps her. Obama was happy to oversee a brutal financial abuse of black homeowners circa 2008 while bailing out banks. Harris, well, you can look at her own record with families in her handling of truancy and with people of color as "California's Top Cop". "But she was just doing her job" is the Nuremberg defense; She could have been doing a lot of other things, but I guess she decided this was the best course of action for her career (and she was apparently right).
These people are traitors to the groups you are identifying them with. They're sick bastards who are happy to bleed the working class dry. Don't let such shallow methods of manipulation get to you.
the only thing lazy here is parroting democrats who took credit for things they didn't do
Affordable Care Act
democrats walked back on medicare for all reforms ensuring that the aca will cease to function.
LGBTQ rights,
the democrats gave us don't ask, don't tell; doma; and 10450. the gays became accepted through portrayals in tv and movies; not because of democrats. the closest thing that could be misconstrued as lgbt right is the defense of marriage act which did nothing but give gay marriage bigots legal protections since the supreme court invalidated doma 8 years before.
marijuana reform…
nothing but lip service for the last 20 years
not to mention a Black man was president
a member of the ruling class
Black woman is the party nominee.
acab and a prosecutor who put many innocent people behind bars and then fought to keep them there once it became clear that they were innocent to just to save face.
I respectfully disagree. Half of independents and a quarter of Democrats said they'd support militarized camps for undocumented people.
The corporate/conservative propaganda is working.
If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. -Lyndon B. Johnson
That polling was mentioned immediately in the article, but it then points to the wealth of issues where the headline is true.
None of that matters to me. You can be conservative and give renters a break. As long as they're the right renters. This idea of in groups and out groups that is the core of conservative ideology is gaining ground.
Edit to add - It's struck me that the article and I are actually talking about two different things. Their real complaint is that the Democrats are moving towards servicing the donor class more than their constituents. My complaint is that the constituents are getting too cozy with the idea of in groups, as long as they believe they're on the inside.
Oh look, more vote-third-party slop pushed right before an election. What a coincidence!
the democrats have received endorsements from dick fucking cheney and ex-reagan staffers. they have campaigned on building the border wall more efficiently, shutting down asylum and hiring more border guards. in the debate she promised the American military will be the most lethal fighting force in the world. democrats USED to campaign on medicare for all, a path to citizenship, ending forever wars, etc. the rightward shift of the party is abundantly clear to anyone not just playing team sports. you need to come to terms with the fact that your party has been assimilated by neoconservatives and push back on it, or it's only going to continue.
Including Obama who surrounded himself (top cabinet posts) with the most zionist neocon republicans in the democratic party, Biden and HRC, unprimaried Harris continues the tradition of Republican sympathizer nominee, as some desperate attempt to avoid a stronger fascism that DNC/media keeps humanizing. Media and Zionist first political donations is an insurmountable problem, though.
Third parties are never even mentioned in the article. Is all left criticism of Harris "vote-third-party slop"?
What a coincidence!
This is one of those things where we all know what it means but you have deniability if someone calls you out on it. Just say what you mean instead of resorting to dogwhistling.
What bullshit.
thanks for providing a great example of a self referential comment
This is kind of a shit take. Yes, the Democrats are, but we are approaching a whole new part of the spectrum on the other side.
Sure, the bad guys are getting worse, but does that excuse the good guys getting less good? The article wasn't particularly original, and certainly didn't serve enlightenment, but it did make me ever so slightly less cheerful about Harris. Now might not be the time to complain about details like this, but — if those concerns are founded — the details are still worth remembering.
The "good guys" were never good. This is the party of slavers, Dixiecrats, Jim Crow, colonialism, settler-colonial genocide, multiple coups and wars, and material supporters of basically every racist cop there has ever been. Oh, and right now, they are doing a genocide. They also were under Obama but nobody cared because Yemen gets little press in chauvinist media. They've been making rightward shifts in most policies since Clinton.
Take heart from her announcing a more than doubled federal minimum wage at $15. It's not going to make anyone rich, but that'll make a big difference to a lot of very poorly paid workers.