'A cavity is not a vagina': Trans woman refused healthcare in France
'A cavity is not a vagina': Trans woman refused healthcare in France
The French doctor admitted he didn't have the training or knowledge to treat trans patients - as experts say there's no need for a trans woman to visit a gynaecologist at all.
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The only reason a trans woman would go to a gynecologist is to raise a stink. No other reason, no "healthcare" reason. I hate people who go out of their way be to a "victim".
"There is no recommendation for a trans woman to have regular gynaecological check-ups, unless she has a surgical problem related to the operation, because she doesn't have a uterus or a cervix," she added.
Fucking drama queen.
Seriously, what's a gyno supposed to do? The parts they specialize in aren't there. I can't imagine being so pathetic that I go out of my way to cause problems for some random doctor.
Seriously, what’s a gyno supposed to do?
He could not say transphobic shit and call her a man.
Sure he was rude, but from the standpoint of his trade, she is a man. She has no female parts and that's the whole point of his job.
It's like handing an electrician a pipe wrench and saying "the wires are leaking, go tighten them up"
Sure he was rude
You're really just glossing over this.
He called her a man in several different ways. That's transphobic, and has nothing to do with his trade.
As has been pointed out several times now in this thread, that's not correct
It has been pointed out exclusively by you, and you have been incorrect on each occasion.
Fuckin' looooool
A “neo vagina” and a “neo cervix” are not vaginas and cervixes. They don’t need a gynaecology
Conveniently left out the response huh
GOALPOST FOUL! Also: Suckit.
Yeah it seems pretty clear that at least some of the posters here don't care about the facts of the matter, they want to chant about birth sex, which... mumsnet is --> that way.
Trans women are biological men. There’s no side stepping this fact, and when you’re talking about doctors and medicine it is the only thing that matters. Your “gender identity” is irrelevant. It means nothing.
Post op trans women need gynecological services. If, however, you’re a trans woman who has had bottom surgery to create a vagina (vaginoplasty) and possibly a cervix, there’s a very small risk that you can develop cancer in the tissues of your neo-vagina or neo-cervix. The risk depends on the type of surgery you had, the type of tissue used to create your vagina and cervix and your personal health history. Talk to your healthcare provider to figure out your specific cancer-screening needs as part of your overall pelvic health following surgery. So neither shit stirring nor seeking unnecessary healthcare are necessarily at play here.
For cancer screeings you want to see an Oncologists.
For cancer treatment you see an oncologist, or if there are existing signs and you need to nail down whether you have it or not, or the specifics of your case. For screenings you don't go to an onco.
Alright, so you go to your GP or, since the cancer risk in this case comes from basically a skin graft, maybe a dermatologist. But you sure as hell don't need a gynocologist. There is also no mention of gynecology in the article you linked.
You also don’t go to a gynaecologist if you’re a male.
It's possible that she had "a surgical problem related to the operation." So maybe she was in the right place? We don't know if this medical complaint was ever brought up during her visit.
I think the medical profession needs to be explicitly clear on what kind of care and where transwomen (and transmen) should seek care for what kind of issue. And in considerate, non transphobic language. That way everyone is on the same page.
She’s not in the right place because she is biologically male. Gynaecologists don’t treat males.
I was quoting Pernille Ravn, a member of the European Society of Gynaecology and a gynaecologist at Odense University Hospital in Denmark, from the article. My understanding of what Ravn said is that that might be a reason to see a gynecologist. I'm just going by what this doctor said. I'm not a gynecologist in France. Regardless, it would be helpful if their medical expert explicitly stated who transwomen patients should see related to what issues.