Also: decades of deliberately covering up greenhouse gas effects on climate, thereby increasing the rate and damage of natural disasters, causing millions of refugees (soon to be billions)
i was being nice, to be perfectly honest i'd prefer to stick the nazis in here , but hilariously the damn nazis would also love to just kill the refugees
Nazis / average reddit libs are so incredibly dense. Europe already does let refugees drown en masse, puts the survivors in camps and immediately deports a large number of them. If you're too racist to bear that people from the Global South come to your doorstep, maybe stop bombing and overexploiting their home countires and stop making equatorial regions uninhabitable through climate change.
you underestimate just how ethno-centric and downright racist Europeans are. Also we did have it for few years around 2016, but now even socdems and libs are doubling down on stopping immigration.
These same people will claim unironically that Europe must be preserved because it's a bastion of human rights and that "those people don't place value on human life, unlike us"
White supremacy is the black hole at the center of liberal thought: not directly observable (they won't explicitly say it), but its presence is betrayed by how all their other ideas orbit around it.
I have to ask... Why? Why haven't you all given up on Reddit, and especially those who talk about politics on Reddit? Now the only ones talking about politics on Reddit are the Nazis who don't give a shit about Reddit's abusive business model. Political Reddit is now practically 4chan
For all we talk about the internet not being real life, a ton of people dramatically change their beliefs and actions based on what they read online. Posting isn't praxis, but it's propaganda, and propaganda works.
I think it's fun to make very socialist comments in subs that are very much not socialist, but like not use any socialist words, and then get a lot of upvotes from people who would call me a tankie in a heartbeat if they realized. I don't think I'm changing anyone's mind btw, I don't think I'm doing anything important, I just think it's funny to write one of those a couple times a month lmao.
I also just need some outlet to disagree with libs on the internet, as lots of sorta-libs-who-don't-follow-politics surround me irl, and I don't want to be that guy to them, as they are my friends. It's also just fun to practice arguments at random people, so you can see what works, and what doesn't without any real consequence. There are people I actually want to convince in real life, might as well prototype my arguments when I can.
Also it's entertaining to yell at fascists. Like yeah, I should touch grass, but Redditors being mean to me doesn't really bother me, so it's not like I'm losing anything doing it. It is nice however to have this place, where I can go to relax a bit, if I don't feel like having /r/europe people in my replies.
I gave up on reddit like 4 years ago when chapo got banned. I just lurk around there nowadays and participate in some niche communities that are not political.
They think they're so clever when they say stuff like this too. They actually think they're fooling people with this stuff, even though it isn't a dogwhistle, it's screaming through a megaphone.
im angry crying reading that filth comment section. go fuck white people i hate them so much, they deserve the worst. every white person who isnt a comrade is my fucking enemy fuck these liberal fascist shits.
It's just sickening seeing open racism with no pushback. Exact same shit as the amerikkkans whining about immigrants and Mexicans, but these scum probably don't even think of themselves as racist.
It’s exhausting, these people “want to protect” Christian values but turn away those who are in need. God literally destroyed sodom and Gomorrah for turning away those in need and violating their guests.
Europeans talking about American Racial Tensions (MLK) vs Europeans talking about Romani people (Hitler)
comments proceed to prove the post 100% correct
It's amazing how their racist arguments about Romani people are basically exactly the same as American racist arguments about black people, but they can't see the connection.
One of my favorite things to do on reddit when Europeans complained about American racism was bring up Romani people and watch how fast everyone became overtly racist
My deeply racist grandfather once went on a huge great replacement before it was cool rant about how the Roma would soon become the majority in his town because they keep having children so they can receive more social aid.
All of that "but they don't integrate well" is bullshit too. Jewish people integrated into European nations, while maintaining an independent cultural identity, and were still subject of ridicule and oppression starting from the Alfred Dreyfus affair and culminating with the Holocaust.
Reminds me of something I read that went on during world war 1; apparently the German government at the time wanted to prove that the Jewish people were letting Germans die in war but not contributing themselves and conducted a study that SURELY was going to prove that, right?
Well actually the study proved that Jewish people were participating in the military in higher numbers than non-Jewish people and so they kept the results of the study under wraps.
That whole thread is ridiculous. Almost every comment is the most racist mask-off shit advocating for the death for foreigners in one way or another. Some are even explicitly saying they don't care that they're taking neonazi positions.
how do these people get so personally pressed about such a proportionally tiny amount of people? literally less than 5 in 100 persons is a migrant in the EU, and that counts non-EU white people. i'm convinced most of these nazis probably haven't actually spoken to an immigrant. this current italian "crisis" drama is over 100,000 people. in a fucking country of 60 million, with a gdp of 3 trillion you're going to tell me y'all can't afford feeding & housing 100k?
As my friend Aimé Césaire once said: Europe is indefensible. Racism, orientalism and imperialism are the default position of many europeans, when "they" are "threatened" by people who flee their countries thanks to the absolute economic starvation THEY (The europeans) have produced, they turn around and sieg heil at the nearest swastika. Instead of turning into straight up nazis (And it is poles who are unironically doing it, lmfao), question your own authorities and be critical of your own history. If you don't want africans arriving by boat, demand Capitalism to stop starving Africa and to eliminate their dependency on western financial "aid" and capital.
Europe is nothing but a glorified peninsula that has contributed next to nothing to the world, since it's a peninsula starved of natural resources, they took them from other places. Look at it this way: The America's first experience with Europe was fucking Columbus man, a complete brute who found them by accident and then proceeded to do genocide because european moment. Then the europeans pillaged the entire continent, made themselves rich from America's riches and now they try to lecture us on "how to human rights". This is Europe, a thorn in everyone else's asses. Europe delenda est.
Sure pretty much everyone in r/Europe is a Hitlerite, but there was one guy blaming the whole thing on France killing Gaddafi. Horseshoe theory is real.
When we have the revolution in Australia and they make me head of the Committee of Public Safety I'm putting every single person responsible for this "put them in camps forever" idea into the remains of the Woomera camp and then redesignating the target zone of the nearby rocket range. One death is not enough for the suffering they've caused worldwise
Its always strange to me that australia, an entire country that started as a forever camp for criminals, would unironically do the same thing to people looking for a better life
Im currently being downvoted for suggesting that sinking the migrant's boats is a bad policy idea and Europe needs to do more to prepare for african migrants due to climate change like the USA and Canada need to prepare for migrants coming from the south.
So much of it is just fan-casting anyway. None of these assholes have any control over the state of the border. They're just regurgitating the opinions of those that do. If they were based leftist world workers, what would change other than the content of the sub?
None of the "good policy choices" were retrospective about colonialism, or about ceasing modern interventionism. The idea can't even begin to formulate in their pathetic minds.
I don't understand why people want to come here. If you're an immigrant from Africa and come to the UK you will end up working in an Amazon warehouse full of people none of whom speak English or even the same language as each other in an environment more hostile than some prisons. With a boss who only communicates by shouting at you. Also they have absolutely no idea how employment law works
How bad could their home countries be that this is a preferable life
Westerners can easily stop refugees by treating global south countries as partners and helping them develop and making their homes more desirable to live in. But of course, the first instinct is to become Hitler. But these are Europeans were talking about, so they have higher Hitler particles than other white people
I know the rugby subreddit pretty much hates r/Europe because they tried to brigade the rugby subreddit with racist hitlerite bullshit during the world cup.
If you got this place everyone is trying to get into because they can, why not give em homes and jobs and build out all those eco socialist projects that want for manpower?
Maybe it’s just too hot in here and my brain isn’t working right…
Don't rescue sinking ships. Let those people die. Those who arrive should go to detention centers "either you go back home, or you go to prison in the poorest EU country, where they don't speak any of popular languages so good luck, for illegal border crossing, unless you can prove to me within one hour that you're a legitimate asylum seeker". Sure, this will suck for them, but once the message is sent, people will stop coming.
It's like gypsies. Some of them simply refuse to be a part of a normal society, and offering them help only exacerbates the problem because they learn that by being sufficiently annoying, they will get free food and housing