#1 is doing the show for the children: they love when it feels risqué and adult-y.
#2 is doing the show to get parents' trust.
I regularly pray Mr. Rogers remains the counterexample to this trend 🙏
I don't think he remotely fits the "overly wholesome" aspect of this meme at all. He's far more relatable to creator #1. He made shows about things that are difficult to talk about with kids. He frequently negotiated topics that others advised against. He was incredibly articulate and relatable when it came to even angry letters from ignorant parents. He communicated with children the same way he would with adults. He literally hired a working jazz club pianist to do the music and when asked what kids songs he was going to be playing, homie's basically like, "Uh, you do you fam. YOU are the music program." He even made episodes of his show that were FOR adults. He cared deeply about emotional health and knew how detrimental it is to your development at all stages in life. And he did this for decades as a devout and committed spiritual leader and never mentions God a single time. He knows how to be an example and I would be amazed if he were capable of hiding a sordid and deplorable existence.
He was also an incredible debater and speaker. He does use simpler language on the show but he is very capable. Just adding that because I'm obviously biased. I met him once and my mom wrote him an angry letter. She's always been a piece of trash but I will never forget his kindness and joy.
He also did that episode where he and a black guy shared a foot bath together during a time of racial tension. Mr. Rogers was how church people should strive to be like.
Presbyterians don't have canonized saints but if they did, Fred Rogers would be the first on the list.
"Saints should be presumed guilty until proven otherwise"
Unfortunately didn't apply to the creator of Ren & Stimpy.
...do I want to read this?
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I don't know why I still get disappointed when I find out someone is a shitheel.
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He’s completely responsible for sabotaging his own career. Difficult to work with, allergic to deadlines, and a weirdo sex pest.
Ive read through this entire thread and I still don't know who or what this is referring to.
Is this a reference to someone?
I'm guessing that guy from that swords cartoon on Cartoon network that got caught with CP vs. say, the creator of Samurai Jack (even though it's simulated blood/ "oil")
edit: it was the creator of magiswords.
Edit 2: I accidentally said Jackie Chan instead of Samurai Jack and NONE of you corrected me. No more drunk comments. I did really like Jackie Chans' animated adventures, even though it was probably ccp propaganda.
Edit 3: "C C P" not "cop". I should've capitalized it. Didn't realize the "c" looked like an "o". Jackie Chan is a shill for the CCP. Still enjoy the old kungfu movies/ animation and think it's funny he's a porn star that worked in Hong Kong.
it was the creator of magiswords.
That's a show I haven't heard of in a long time lol. And rightfully so, it was so forgettable and only really existed to push a mobile game afaik. Then it just suddenly dropped off the face of the earth and now I know why.
It's almost as though people obsessed with children are more likely to commit crimes involving children. We see it with the Right all the time.
Catholic Church enters the chat.
Hmmm... I'm not sure the references either. Granted my frame of reference are things like Adventure Time or Steven Universe and from what I can tell those show runners are amazing.
One made things he likes himself that happened to be for kids, but is otherwise a regular guy.
The other one really likes kids stuff, a bit too much even.
Hey, one of them clearly knew kids a lot better than the other.
Reminds me of the South Park guys.
What does that make Mr. Rogers
He was too busy being good to everyone around him to have time for anything else.
I wrote in another comment, but if you examine his life, he was NOT a conformist. My favorite thing about his unconventional style was that he knew he needed a radical music program but had enough humility to know he needed someone else to direct it (he was a very talented musician). So he found the local and famous jazz club pianist and directed him to play whatever sort of music he desired. Johnny Costa, one of my personal icons, was very confused at first because he thought his music would be far too advanced or technical for a children's show. And if you watch the show, you will notice that he plays every single song in a unique way, every single time. Can you imagine that? Playing the same music for 30 years and almost never playing the same thing. He was an absolute master of not hitting the note that your brain expected him to play, yet still playing enough to resolve and release the tension of the melody. It really is beautiful music.
Whoa, tangent. But seriously, MR was a rebel and the highest calibre of person that Pittsburgh has to offer.
If it ever came out that Mr. Rogers was a Saville, I think the internet would collapse. For sure there would be millions defending him proof or no
I hope this post isn’t how I find out about MC Bat Commander
Only thing I don't like about it is the visual representation of the villain as a cleancut man with glasses and the good guy as a short haired chubby dude.
You know what a pedophile looks like? Literally anybody.
In a comic where there is one panel dedicated to the depiction of a nonce, who I agree could look like literally anybody, how would you have preferred the artist represent every type of person? Some sort of shifting miasma? A vague cloud? One of those stroke pictures where nothing is quite what it looks like? Michael Jackson's Black or White video?
Stick people. And use exactly the same image for both.
I think there is a specific stereotype of creepy men with swept hair who wear glasses. Fun fact, Visual Acuity does not correlate with sex crimes. Clark Kent has never had allegations against him.
Rick and Morty was pretty loose with the adult themes. Justin roiland was a piece of pedo shit.
By the by, don’t get too comfortable about robot chicken either.
pieces of shit cover their tracks with charities too.
And a plethora of NDAs to hide a lot of shit going on.
I wouldn’t start false attributing violence in cartoons as the take away landmark here on ethics. Lots of pedos and creepos in the industry on all themes. They slip in there on merit that is only checked based on their standing in the field. Not how damp their casting couch is.
