Evidently it really was probably a cucumber? http://artisticlicenseorwhyitrustnoone.blogspot.com/2022/11/bullshit-memes-8-ancient-egyptian.html?m=1
tl;dr - was found with other model food, probably meant to sustain someone in the afterlife
Sustain someone with the ability to have a little sexy time in the afterlife? I like this.
No it was a final insult, telling them to go fk themselves /s
People just love to assume that archeologists have no idea what sex or gay people are. Not saying there isn't a problem with that, but the memes are overblown.
I remember seeing a ton of "archeologists: tHeY'rE jUsT fRiEnDs" comments on an ancient illustration of two Egyptian men, when every single source I could find explained why they seem to have been a gay couple.
Seems like a case where a particular claim of a select group was generalised over a supergroup by way of being the subject of memes that ran away with the stereotype.
It's like that one fraud falsifying studies about a specific type of vaccines in an attempt to sell his own, only for people to latch on to the "vaccine bad" part of the story without limit, nuance or critical examination.
Does anyone still know where the original "just friends" claim stems from, in which context, supported by which arguments, what refutations have been offered since and just how widespread among archaeologists it is today?
also like, is it really that hard to imagine that archeologists went "well this is a gay couple but uh, we can't really say that, so let's just informally agree that 'close friends' is euphemism for 'gay couple', okay?"
"sustain"
IM sure that’s what they wrote down and I’m sure that’s what the person who had it commissioned said it was but the one thing I am more sure of is that this is not a cucumber and nobody who ever saw it has ever thought it is a cucumber.
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"I found this strange fucking object" vs "I found this strange fucking object"
I hope this is your highest voted comment on Lemmy.
"It's a ritual!" is a classic archaeology meme.
Motel of the Mysteries is basically this joke explored over 95 pages, lovingly illustrated by David Macaulay, the guy who did those black and white books Cathedral, Pyramid, Castle, and The Way Things Work, as well as others. It's hilarious.
No you see they know it's a cucumber because ancient Egyptian dildos had a compartment for bees so that users could experience a vibration effect.
This is the economy model. Made for the common folk, not Cleopatra. (That is just an urban legend btw.)
I was not aware of this urban legend, but I will repeat it anyways because it's funny.
Likely used for ceremonial purposes.
The Egyptians weren't always shy, but there do appear to be traces of green paint.
That's just Min.
you know, after reading and viewing the depictions in the wikipedia article I am going to just keep my mouth shut.
Mood
Perhaps it was located next to a pair of model tomatoes
Where are the ‘?’ marks. Is this how people write now.
Imagine yourself being confused and baffled by something, and asking "Really?". The intonation is rising, as is usual in questions. Imagine yourself hearing someone say something you are completely confident is absurdly false or a lie, and you want to suggest to the person that they're wrong and you know the truth, by sarcastically asking "Really?". The intonation is falling, closer to ordinary statements of fact.
OOP is using the full stop at the end of his "questons" to suggest the second, sarcastic intonation.
is there a problem か
Grammar is made up
Same energy as "Sappho and her friend"
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Then do the same test but you put it in front of Catharina, and see what happens.
The Egyptlogists might have some additional context and knowledge that some rando on Twitter might now.
sure, but experts have been making bad assumptions before.
Like archaeologists up until relatively recently have been calling viking graves with swords in male, without really looking at the actual skeleton.
that said, yeah, I still definitely trust the experts more
My wife's been reading this book that references this. As well so many other cases of men assuming genders or disregarding women in science, among other things. It's crazy. "hmm that skeleton has wide hips, but it is also buried with a sword, so it's a man". Female physiology traits in a man is way more plausible, than a woman being buried with a sword ... wtf?!?
Anyway, the book is next on my reading list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Women:_Exposing_Data_Bias_in_a_World_Designed_for_Men
But did cucumbers look like that 4000 years ago?
Remember that the idiots in the 19th & 20th centuries uncovering all kinds of Egyptian stuff purposefully damaged inscriptions and art because they prominently showed gasp penises!
I'm the model of a cucumber Egyptian
As we well know all women and men in history that lived together with someone of the same gender were just friends. There are many historical records in which esteemed historians depicted the factual truth of deep friendships. Luckily for the rest of us, those noble seers always knew all context required and bore no prejudices towards anything whatsoever. That is a model cucumber. It even tastes like one.
There are some people in here who are weirdly obsessed with risking a yeast infection.
But bro
You could get yourself a yeast infection with 3000 year old yeast
Was talking more about how many people are insisting cucumbers and eggplants should actually be used like that
sourdough infection
"Model cucumber? Hell, nah, son. That there's a petrified hunk 'a' dooky."
"Ah man, I ate off that thing!"
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A cuke named Duke
See also "ancient stone tool."
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