The Internet Archive lost its appeal in Hachette vs. Internet Archive

Im totally sure Open A.I. will be sued for doing the exact same fucking thing right?

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- kind of like how a non-compliant cab company would be shut down but Uber was ok because 'it's a tech company' (with a big lobbying team)
- I haven't ever yet but damn this article is testing my limits
- frat parties, that sounds horrible.
Lathing a judge literally saying we have to let AI companies steal any IP they wish because we can't allow an AI gap between the US and China.
- I see it so clearly 😞
  
  by court order, the public loses access to the Internet Archive, and it is instead devoured legally by ~~insatiable AI~~ nonsense LLMs
  
  ...
  
  judges and congresscritters cheer as Line Go Up and all vibes indicate China Bad Go Down
  
  please, step away from the lathe
it's OK when ai does it because it's not people getting to use it

Data hoarders were right

we may have to start making excuses for the lack of terror

we must wring the Internet Archive for cash because they dared disrespect the auteur behind 'FNNNnnngggmmflorp'
- just for that post playa you get to be the pictographic essence of the soylib
- Yerrmmmf
- ancient riddle:
  
  if a book is free on the internet but no-one reads it does it count as piracy?
Context behind this pic?
- Lin-Manuel Miranda and Chuck Wendig (who essentially catalyzed the lawsuit)
I saw a comrade calling this whole thing bad on twitter and one of his replies called Chuck his "fellown communist" lol

The Internet Archive is still facing a similar, follow on suit filed by a group of major record labels over its "Great 78" program, which collects vintage, 20th century 78 rpm recordings, digitizes them and makes them freely available to the public.

This is what idealism does to you.

Hmm today we will openly, defiantly, and unambiguously break the law.

Hmm we've gotten a legal demand to stop and a lawsuit, they say if we stop, apologize and promise never to do it again they'll settle for a pittance but we are taking a moral stand here and believe our moral philosophical arguments hold more weight than the law as written that clearly places us unambiguously in violation of the law.

Court proceeds to ignore their philosophical arguments and enforce bourgeois law as written

shocked-pikachu

This was beyond obvious as the outcome. Bourgeois courts don't serve some public interest.

So instead now we stand to lose an invaluable, irreplaceable archive of not just the internet over decades of time but also rare media such as movies, TV shows, music videos, and much more all also archived with them. And for what? Because someone couldn't back down and thought that courts in the US served the common interest instead of the wealthy. Because someone forgot the golden rule of piracy and breaking IP laws and that's keep quiet about it.

Naive to think the internet archive would have been fine if they backed down. Settling would have only been the thin end of the wedge as more new lawsuits flood in seeking to destroy the archive piece by piece. The bourgeois want to destroy the commons and the law is only a temporary obstacle at most.

doesnt this put in jeopardy all the libraries that do digital checkout? my local library system does this.

Mostly no. Those are usually incredibly expensive licenses bought from the publisher. It does put digital interlibrary loan in a weird spot, though.
- Those are usually incredibly expensive licenses bought from the publisher.
  
  So I was right; this does boil all the way down to "the pissy little capitalist pig publishing houses aren't getting their kickback so now they're tantruming". Fuck it; I'm going back to full-scale pirating anything that wasn't independently produced and published.

Here's the court opinion (warning: PDF)

I mean this was obviously gonna be the result given how copyright works. Not sure why the Internet Archive tried it in the first place. Ultimately you have to rewrite copyright law (lol) or pirate stuff like everyone else

sadness-abysmal

gui to all the soulless husks that are connected to helping destroy the internet archive and resources like it.

!I wish to encourage everyone to be extremely complacent, happy, and not to seek any sort of punitive vengeance upon the people suing the internet archive. !I want to encourage love, forgiveness, and hope, but not excessive action, lest tomorrow be darkened with the sin of your actions.

So, what are the consequences if they said fuck it and hosted this in Russia and China? The owners can still be sued, but what if they transferred ownership to an anonymous corporate entity registered in the cayman islands or some shit?

When will libre people understand that you can’t win against these assholes by going high when they go low?

tbf they should have thought about that before openly defying the law and hosting petabytes of copyrighted content lol. internet archive is a great resource but it baffles me they actually thought they would be allowed to operate in the open with impunity
AFAIK Chinese piracy is a different culture, its mostly done on private/secret forums not with the same public torrent/archive methods we use. Also I'm confident hosting a website inside China is no simple matter given the regulations, certainly it would be trivial for authorities to notice the foreign traffic.

Which leads to the final point, the firewall is also to prevent exactly this.

The CPC isn't going to act on a shared principle of fuck the west here, on the contrary they'd see hosting western piracy content as a potential threat given it bypasses the firewall.
Russia yeah, but are there many piracy sites hosted in China or something? Are they similarly lenient?

The west must be destroyed

Destroying an archive with a Hatchet, classic move douchebags

...Yeah, fuck Random House, fuck Hatchette, fuck Penguin, fuck Simon and Schuster. I'm going back to LibGen thanks to this move. Publisher houses delenda est.

who needs libraries and records and archived when we have bazinga SaaS startups and record shareholder profits