What a weird focus on the US democratic party. Every single US government has been doing this exact same thing.
Every single US government has been doing this exact same thing.
So... both sides are evil?
Correct
Yes. Any common sense human being in America can clearly see that we have a uniparty. We have been hoodwinked over and over and over by both sides. And now we've been made aware that our government has been hijacked by bad actors - a foreign entity. As long as we ignore this fact, we will continue to degrade as a nation and as a civilization.
After Trump's assassination attempt, he received new donors... guess what they all have in common? So whether it's Kamala or Trump, Israel is still going to get away with their crimes and Americans will still have to cough up the tax dollars to support those criminals.
What a weird whataboutism. No US government has ever supported israel in a blatant Holocaust.
Even the Republicans that supported an israeli Genocide told israel to cut it off after 3000 killed Palestinians.
If Trump was doing this you'd be up in arms. But Blue MAGA all the way.
In essence the entire US Government regardless if Republican or Democrat are complicit in this ongoing genocide.
That is true, but Republican's electoral base mostly agrees with this whereas democrat's electoral base doesn't. Many Pro-republicans will gleefully vote for genocide or deny than that's what's going on. Pro-democrats, however are asked to tolerate genocide to vote for the lesser of two evils. It makes sense that the latter will protest and demand that the politicians who are supposed to represent them change their ways.
Getting rid of zionistic tendencies won't just happen during one legislative period. But I'm not deep into US Politics so I can't make any statements or suggestions how to get rid of this heinous stance.
So yeah voting democrats is the lesser evil on only this topic, while it is a way better choice regarding other more domestic issues.
Whether the winner is Trump or Kamala, both of them will still keep supporting Israel; as their actions benefit US overall. Trump even had the chance to resolve the israel palestine crisis back when he was the president. He didn't. Why would he change policies after he's elected again?
During his presidency, he admitted that Netanyahu was against a resolution with Palestine.
Every single mfker that approved and signed off on supporting Israel's genocide against Palestine should all be held accountable and sent to prison as war criminals. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
Humans are going to slaughter humans no matter what we do. Even if we managed to fix every single reason we want to kill each other now, in about a day we will find new and even stupider reasons to kill each other. Posts like this are pointless, because we will continue to be hellish monsters to each other till the end of time.
Edit: Sorry, I get really nihilistic in the morning.
Literally nobodys saying that. The only thing we say is that trump would do the same(or probably worse) and that you shouldnt throw away your vote on some third party that 5 people vote for. If the had a sane system you could rank your vote but sadly, currently the us voting system is fucked. Also youre probably a chinese propaganda machine or a tankie which also means youre provably a chinese propaganda machine... Other thing id like to point out: all the tankies call biden genocide joe but somehow trump is always left out of the conversation, interesting isnt it. Also im pro palestine(tho not anti israel more anti netanyahu and anti settler) but i live in europe so i can actually choose from multiple parties...
At least you admit you're a Zionist
if this moron could hurry up and get banned I would really appreciate it
Sure keep calling me the bad guy for picking the lesser evil. Maybe if you keep doing it enough, Lemmy will get more users.
What does “finish the job “ mean to you? People In glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
We see articles about trump talking with bibi to stall or delay any ceasefire because it’ll help Harris… you post this?
Sounds like shipping 14,000+ 2,000 pound bombs to israel.
Sure sounds like Biden should start using his leverage over israel if he wants to achieve that ceasefire. If only he had the power to do that amiright haha.
Dear Leftists,
You claim to hate whataboutism, yet every time someone suggests voting for Harris so Trump doesn't win and thus do irreparable harm to Gaza, to large numbers of vulnerable Americans, to the climate, and to our ability to vote at all, you say "whatabout democrats". Curious!
Dear Liberals,
Democrats are committing Genocide right now. Trump is not the president. It is not 2016. You can't blame Trump for Demcrats doing a Nazi Holocaust.
Kind regards.
Dear person who refuses to argue in good faith,
First of all, last I checked, Netanyahu was committing genocide, not the Democrats. Second of all, Trump has promised to funnel arms to Israel harder than Biden currently is, and he stands a very real chance of winning the 2024 election.
- There are two choices in the United States 2024 election. No third party stands a ghost of a chance of winning. No, not even if the 30,000 people you can reach on Lemmy all vote for Timothy Greenparty.
- A Trump victory in 2024 would not only be just as bad if not worse for the citizens of Gaza than Harris would, but also pose an existential threat to a large number of vulnerable Americans (trans people, immigrants, women seeking abortions).
- Given the margins of victory in 2016 and 2020, Kamala might not win if leftists don't vote for her.
- Snoozing fascism for four years is better than inviting it through the door now, and buys us time to build our defenses for when it comes back.
I'd like to focus my counterargument. Which of these statements do you disagree with?
EDIT: why am I not surprised that you left a downvote but not a reply?
I’m sorry but short of a revolution (which is unlikely), or slow, measured positive change over the course of decades (which we’d still have to fight hard for), we’re stuck with a two party system and you shouldn’t blame people for sticking with the lesser of two evils. I do agree that Liberals can be heavy handed with their bans, but I guess they’re doing so to keep the discourse focused. Trump is a very real and immediate threat who might commit far more heinous crime if he becomes the president again.
