The Iraqi YouTube star killed by her father
The Iraqi YouTube star killed by her father
Tiba al-Ali's death has sparked the call for change for violence against women in Iraq.
Young, vibrant and bubbly, YouTuber Tiba al-Ali became a hit with her fun-loving videos about her life.
She started her channel after moving from her native Iraq to Turkey at the age of 17 in 2017, talking about her independence, her fiancé, make-up and other things. Tiba appeared happy and attracted tens of thousands of subscribers.
This January she went back to Iraq to visit her family - and was murdered by her father. However, the killing was not considered to have been "pre-meditated" and her father was sentenced to only six months in prison.
Tiba's death sparked protests across Iraq about its laws regarding so-called "honour killings", the case highlighting how women are treated in a country where conservative attitudes remain dominant.
Can't we just agree that religions that teach women are subservient to men should be opposed? A concept of religious freedom that gives parents/fathers the right to compel observance on their children under threat of beatings or death is a fucked up sense of freedom. I don't blame France for trying to protect their secular society by banning religiously-derived garb in public schools - removing the power of parents to dictate such garb gives kids a chance early on to make up their own mind - do they like the freedom from family-mandated othering they experience at school, or do they like displaying that they are subserviant to men when compelled by their family?
That’s like every religion. The world would be MUCH better off if religion overall wasn’t a thing.
People keep saying this edgy take but that's impossible. As long as strong beliefs are held true by many individuals, there will always be a religion. Pastafarianism is a great example of an "anti-religion" that promotes the positive morals without the need for a deity (or the flying spaghetti monster as a joke), but in doing so, it ironically became a religion in itself.
That's pretty much every religion I've seen when the interpretation comes from the conservative folk.
Yes ..agreed.. fuck religion. Brainwashing power house.
Id be great if all religions had age limits
A concept of religious freedom that gives parents/fathers the right to compel observance on their children under threat of beatings or death is a fucked up sense of freedom. I don't blame France for trying to protect their secular society by banning religiously-derived garb in public schools
Parents telling their daughters what to wear is wrong, so the state must intervene and tell the daughters to wear something that I personally find more agreeable.
How about we all just stop telling women what they can and can't wear?
Because school children are not adults, religious parents that believe females are subservient to men will continue to compel their children to comply. Then, suddenly, instead of the Catholic Church impinging on all aspects of society, you have islamic groups impinging on all aspects of society - same game, different religion. France is a secular society and fought hard to get that way.
Oppose behaviors and actions. Religion is messy. There are so many different interpretations with differences of denomination and sect. Don't oppose religion. Oppose the concrete human actions and the people that support and promote those actions. If those people are religious leaders, so be it.
Blaming religion is not the answer. In fact Islam came to erase the practice of killing girls that was prominent in the region. Additionally, both Quran and Islamic teaching makes it very clear that killing any soul is a no no except for war or crimes.
So where this killing came from ? I am not sure but considering it exists in many countries and between religious and non-religious groups sugget it is something else. I would assume it is the tribal culture and poor living conditions.
Her dad strangled her in her sleep. It wasn't a heat of the moment decision
I also have to assume the actual law used was not the two examples cited by the article, as 41 applies to disciplining children (and murder is not discipline but punishment) and 409 is about adultery. Those examples still highlight the problem, but all this it leaves me wondering whether the law even mattered here.