I never understood why the producers put Troi, Seven of Nine and T'Pol into those stupid catsuits in the first place. All of them looked so much more sexy whenever they wore the standard Starfleet uniform.
Thankfully Jellico fixed that at least for Troi.
Absolutely way better here. Said it for years Starfleet uniforms > catsuit bullshit. That has to be a specific fetish of a Paramount exec, Rick Berman probably.
Jadzia managed to dodge that bullet somehow.
It's because he got to make it the Bajoran uniform for Kira
Jadzia managed to dodge that bullet somehow.
She was instead forced to wear the sort of padding made for people who have had a mastectomy.
In addition to what was said about Berman, there's also Gene Roddenberry. The best way I can explain how his opinion of women evolved over time is that he allowed Marina Sirtis to have that role on TNG even though she didn't sleep with him. The same was not true of Nichelle Nichols in the 1960s.
Sirtis only stayed on the show after season 1 because Denise Crosby left. Not because there was a rift between them, but because she wasn't crossing the "too many women on the show" threshold anymore.
Gates McFadden left TNG for Season 2 because she ran afoul of Maurice Hurley, one of Roddenberry's lap dogs:
I had been in conflict with one of the male writer-producers about certain things I thought were sexist. What I’ve heard is that he said 'Either she goes or I go.' I was shocked that they let me go, because I knew my character was really popular. But he was going to be writing more and more and didn’t want to have to deal with me. What was great was they got rid of him and asked me to come back.
To his credit, Rick Berman asked her back, but I think it was only because Dr. Katherine Pulaski was such an unpopular character and the fans kept writing letters about bringing back Dr. Crusher.
Rick Berman and Gene Roddenberry understood, to varying degrees, that it was important to have women represented as strong, intelligent equals—but did not necessarily personally hold that value.
JFC, I hope that the next incarnation of Trek has writers and producers that aren't so sexist.
I say this as a dude who's sexual awakening was a combination of Stevie Nicks, Deanna Troi (as I knew her then), and Ryan Reynolds. JUST LET PEOPLE BE WHO THEY ARE. I don't know of any military institution (and let's be honest, that's what Starfleet is) that specifically dresses one officer different from another based on gender, and I can't figure out why the concept would transpose itself into a show based on being progressive. The only example I can think of is the Salvation Army, which has all the dress code qualities of your average preppy high school 30 years ago. But don't get me started on that racket...
Troi was put in the catsuit from day one, to capture the teenage boy market (and most of the rest of the male market). They put her on a uniform at the height of Star Trek popularity.
Seven came in at season 4 of Voyager with the extremely tight catsuit. This is the third series of the 90s era plus a couple of movies, so franchise fatigue started to set in. They needed a way to boost ratings, and they already knew of one surefire way.
With Enterprise, they didn't even try to hide it. T'Pol could have very easily worn a standard Vulcan uniform, which we've seen multiple examples. The catsuit was blatantly used to try to regain some audience. Unfortunately they didn't realize until it was too late that good writing and multi-episode arcs were what we really wanted.
It kinda killed Enterprise for me. The catsuit and the gratuitous "decontamination" scenes. It felt really off.
It's not like I'm prudish or anything, I like that kind of thing in certain contexts. But it's Star Trek, I'm watching this thing to get my nerd on. Trying to sex it up just made it weird.
I'm not entirely sure that seven's catsuit was really what boosted ratings with adding her to the crew though.
The fact is, she was a good character with interesting development. She put life back into a kind of meh show and quickly became one of the stars over most of the original crew.
But ratings was, without question, the intent of that stupid outfit. It just makes me sad to think back that they might not have needed it.
Berman and friends thought troi was too fat looking in the standard uniform 😠 we were robbed of 5 or 6 seasons of a lady in uniform 😅
WOW, did not know that. That's a yikes from me, bro
Big fucking yikes from me too.
Don't forget Kira. Her uniform was pretty much a catsuit after the first couple of seasons.
Was great seeing her in a Starfleet uniform for the last few episodes at least
I never understood why the producers put Troi, Seven of Nine and T’Pol into those stupid catsuits in the first place
Well, the reason was quite obviously sexism imo. They probably considered it eye candy/fan service from their chauvinist point of view.
Because sex sells.
Only Troi was actually Starfleet of all those people. But that doesn't excuse the awful costumes.
Did you miss the 80s?
Only thing he did I actually agreed with.
Omfg you got me with this one. I just started guffawing out loud and showed it to my GF who just shook her head and walked away.
Seeing what happened to him in that one comic set in the mirror timeline was my favorite thing ever.
Refresh my memory please? I believe you're talking about the one where Riker and Picard have a punch out and Data look more like a Borg?
Brilliant 🤣
