(CW: slop) If there's one franchise that just needs to stop, it's Ghostbusters

For the love of God please stop making poor old Harrison Ford pretend to be a 40 year old treasure hunter.

Nobody wants to watch "Indiana Jones and the Non ADA Compliant Ramp Outside the Post Office"

I still don't understand why Indiana Jones wasn't made into a sort of James Bond legacy character

Like the movies are my problematic favs - yes, I know they're steeped in racism but also it's fun to see Nazis get decked and all - but there's something depressing about the latest movie being mostly about Jones being old, decrepit, and cranky. It loses a lot of its charm that way
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- Especially considering he literally has a young protege in a bunch of the movies, the passing of the torch writes itself.
  
  Unless they're just really committing to the bit and soon they're gonna have a movie where Ford is the ancient mcguffin a new younger adventurer has to find a "rescue"/steal.
- There are books upon books of Young Indiana Jones and also some solid Indiana Jones games that could get the screen treatment. They're RIGHT FUCKING THERE USE THOSE
- Indiana Jones and the Home of Retirement
- Somehow the idea that Indiana Jones is a character and not Punch People Action Guy and he must be played by Harrison Ford is so absurd. He is a hat, a jacket, a whip, exciting danger and punching. Harrison Ford wasn't even the first guy to play Indiana Jones from a thematic standpoint. They were ripping off old adventure serials which starred that exact archetype.
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- The racism and misogyny are fucking hard to sit through as an adult, i rewatched the first one recently ang omg. The love subplot is Indi slept with a 16 year old and she falls in love with him.
Nobody wants to watch "Indiana Jones and the Non ADA Compliant Ramp Outside the Post Office"

i think people should be generally more aware and passionate about ADA compliance
- Everybody always forgets you need the donkey dick past the last step at the top and bottom.

Hollywood is doing the creative equivalent of mountaintop blasting. Nothing will be left of anyone's childhood except a blasted heath of slow piano covers of beloved theme songs.

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If there's one franchise that needs a reboot, it's USSR

Bustin' feels good though

I remember watching the ghost blownob scene as a child and my father struggling to not explain the joke to me.

I'd put jurassic park first. At least Ghostbusters are solving an external conflict. At this point any jurassic park movie should just be 40 minutes of somebody trying to convince an investor a park where you have live dinosaurs won't have the exact same incredibly predictable problems they've immediatly encountered the last 6 times they did this exact thing.

Only 2 of the movies have had a park
- Ok park or island with the intention to turn it into a park except it goes wrong in exactly the same way before they get that far.
You could do one where there is a park that is successful but gets bought out by some VC asshole who cuts corners and ruins the place? Although that's kinda what happened in Jurassic World so nevermind. No more Jurassic Park.
- That's literally the first movie. Hammond was the vc asshole who spared literally every expense possible.
  
  That's why there was the shot in the helicopter of him having to tie the seat belts together because they didn't even do that right. (Also the two female ends working as a "life finds a way" reference)
  
  That's what I'm saying they pretty well flushed out the concept in the first one, every subsequent movie should be somebody telling them "no you fucking idiot" and then being thrown in jail.
  
  Instead we're on like film 8 of the same shit happening.
  
  Kind of like star wars and their 4th movie where the theme is "giant space based weapon with a weak spot exploitable by somebody sufficiently quirky"
Look they had a pragmatic location it's just not everyone wanted to enough.

Aliens. Time to take they keys away from Ridley Scott.

Still salty they played favorites and gave him back the franchise over Neill Blomkamp and he went on to make one of the worst Aliens movies ever.

It is so wild to me that the movie about how bugs and sexual violence are bad was changed to how "God didn't give you enough treats" and " technology is bad"
Ridley Scott's output in the last couple of decades hasn't been great in general. I'm glad they at least took the keys to Blade Runner from him.

he went on to make one of the worst Aliens movies ever.

You mean Prometheus or Alien: Covenant? Who am I kidding, it's both.
- You mean Prometheus or Alien: Covenant? Who am I kidding, it's both.
  
  I actually tolerated Prometheus but Covenant I was like
- The Last Duel or whatever was good
- I actually really enjoy these. I'm not sure why no one really likes them.
  
  I do like the space beastie movies generally. Like I like all the Riddick movies.
I love those first two movies (and still enjoy the third one) and I'm getting psychological damage every time they put out a new one.

I'm kinda interested in Alien Romulus because it seems like Ridley Scott is completely uninvolved? Kinda just looks like a horror movie on a space ship? idk I'll probably be let down again
Here, let me do the fingering
- What were they thinking?!
well he's only producing the new one, but it's being written by the dipshits behind Don't Breathe 2 so it's probably gonna blow chunks

The best time to stop for each of them was the moment they became franchises. The second-best time to stop is now.

The jurassic world trilogy is hilarious and are an accidental meta commentary on themselves.

They should make a ghostbusters where the dead actors are the villains

What about the MCU, or James Bond?

Fucking "mission: impossible"
- They'll keep doing those until Tom Cruise dies filming one
Oh yeah, Bond is definitely a good call, Cold War slop that's worn out its welcome decades ago.
- Especially since the UK isn’t even a global player anymore lol. Surprised the US hasn’t been pushing Jack Ryan to replace Bond
I feel like James Bond would have legs if they got weird with it. Instead of trying to get serious they gave us a new silly art deco bullshit that would be rad
I have not stopped enjoying MCU slop tbh. Though I am hoping Secret Wars leads to some sort of soft reboot. Idk, I'm an easy lay for superheroes, none of the post-Endgame stuff has been less than a 5 or 6 for me, shows included (though I havent seen Secret Invasion, I heard thats genuinly awful no matter your tastes). So as far as I'm concerned they can keep going. Like basically noone else is but I'm genuinely excited for Thunderbolts because I have sincere affection for the characters in it. I love Nebula and hope they tell more stories with her. I love Kingpin. I love my precious baby Kamala Khan. I have no problem if they keep going even if I'm going to be part of an increasingly shrinking audience.

I do, admittedly, think the "cinematic universe" concept should be dropped and we should just do self contained superhero stories. The Infinity Saga is near impossible to top in that sense so like, just do other self contained things. Doesnt need to be franchises.
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Have they stopped making Terminator sequels/prequels yet? How many silly time travel branches can they churn out? Terminator 2 was basically a high budget remake of the original Terminator with some plot tweaks, both were excellent. I think I watched 2-3 more and they were all forgettable.

Hopefully, I just looked at the NATOpedia page and there hasn't been a new movie since 2019 and all the planned sequels have been scrapped. A Terminator anime series is apparently premiering on Netflix in a couple of weeks, which at least sounds more interesting than ”here's John Connor again”.

The Sarah Connor Chronicles wasn't bad, at least.
- TBF with what's going on in Gaza now - Skynet is real. It's here. Humanity didn't learn it's lesson.

Was Ghostbusters ever actually good though

Movie Mindset was interviewing the director of Repo Man about how the Ghostbusters were struggling academics who turned into reactionaries after the success of their small business. And that the antagonist in the movie was the EPA?? I have to go back and rewatch it now.
- The EPA or the mayor or whoever won't let them operate a nuclear reactor in their old ass firehouse, but the ultimate villain is definitely the demons or ghosts or whatever. They really should have been folded into an animal control department
- This is accurate. And the guy sent bybthe state to shut it down was an idiot who basically wanted them to release hundreds of ghosts into new york immediately because it was against regs.
It was weird and funny. I think that is enough for a movie.
Yeah. It's fun
The first one is fine enough. The rest? Nah

hot take: Ghostbusters (2016) was the best movie since the originals, possibly even on par with or slightly above Ghostbusters 2. it had good wacky energy and didn’t try to take itself seriously like the kids reboot, and it had queer rep that didn’t feel like queerbait, as opposed to the newest movie.

oh, and while I can’t explain why this is, the homages to the original movies and actors felt like proper homages, rather than nostalgia traps like in the reboot series.

I have no real opinion on it outside of a bunch of neckbeard goobergaters lost their shit over it.
- that’s definitely a huge plus to it overall, yeah.
It was the true Ghostbusters ethos of a bunch of SNL talent fucking around in a weird but kinda clever movie idea.
- i think it would have benefitted from a script
The 2016 movie was painfully unfunny to me

None of the movies past the original have a reason to exist, but I guess we're stuck with rehashing that shit endlessly since a bunch of Gen Xers ~~liked the 80s cartoon so much~~ made their parents buy merch from the 80s cartoon
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You'd like the YouTube channel Mr Sunday Movies. One of the hosts agrees
- not a fan of youtube channels in general, but I’ll check ‘em out if the youtube mood strikes me in the near future.

I'd rather have new movies rather than sequels even though some sequels can be good, the bad outweigh the good

One franchise I'm surprised works so well revived is the Caped Crusader reboot of Batman TAS. Still got a lot of the old magic

I really wish they would make a Batman Beyond live-action series. They could even make it lean leftwing with Terry McGinnis being a working class nobody.

Of course, if we did get a Batman Beyond, it'd be "Judge Dredd unironically."
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Forgot that was out, TAS is so good (even if there is a lot more filler than you remembered there being), so that's some slop I'm actually interested in seeing
Reading this comment without knowing this existed until now has me in full treat boy slop mode. How dare you do this to me?

I'm torn on this because I want more good ghostbusters movies but it seems like the OG movies are just a combination of magic that's gone.

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They did, didn't they? They made 2 movies, then like 2 decades later they made a mediocre reboot that made all the CHUDs mad because wamens and that was the end of it. Hollywood learned they can't just keep milking the same franchises over and over and they've returned to making original content since then. Or so I would assume, I haven't been to a movie theatre in over a decade.

it was rebooted again a few years ago with Paul Rudd and one of the kids from Stranger Things, it even got a sequel that came out this year. this time the ghosts are cold or something
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The genderswapped Ghostbusters was fun. I feel like we need the 80s vibe of cynical centerism to make it fun. Plus Dan Akroid is a great writer that was insane before the coke. He thought he was making a documentary then the good SNL writers sanded the rough edges and punched it up. I don't think we could get that today. There are fornsure some writers that have the same flair but the studios wouldn't ever approve it.