What are your views on Hasan Abi ?
What are your views on Hasan Abi ?
Although I have not watched a lot of Hasan videos , I think he is not actually leftist ! He is liberal at best , posing to be leftist ?
He went into Ethan Klein's podcats, whose audience is mostly liberals and socdems and said, in no uncertain terms that the uighur genocide is a lie. He is good friends with the Deprogram boys, which are open MLs. He regularly criticizes the dems.
There is a lot of criticism to be done about hasan piker, but dismissing him as a liberal feels like the usual "no true leftist" purity test
He went into Ethan Klein's podcats, whose audience is mostly liberals and socdems and said, in no uncertain terms that the uighur genocide is a lie.
Damn. I don't think I'd have the guts to do that. When did he do that?
https://www.youtube.com/live/JeUGqefy2TQ?si=Npz3Xq4FsUoYREV6 the relevant part starts at 1:18:00
is there criticism though? like if you dont like his streams you probably are a chud.
As an avid Hasanabi viewer, I have criticisms of him for sure, but not really regarding his politics. He's a classic react lord and it bothers me when, while watching a video on stream, he sometimes just gets up and leaves while leaving the video running. Also he's kind of a douche sometimes and quite aggressive towards random chatters, although I'll give him leeway there because oh my god do people online have the worst fkn opinions about Hasan Piker. I think if I got as much shit on a daily basis as him (while being forced to read it because it's my job to engage with the audience), I would lose my mind.
yes, there is a lot of legitimate criticism. he might have a couple of good China takes, but he holds a lot of state department propaganda as true— says there is a “cultural genocide” of Uyghurs and propagates the “state capitalist” obfuscation.
CW: sexual assault
he is also unapologetic abt soliciting prostitution and anyone who calls him out on it, he calls sex work exclusionary. im not gonna entertain a struggle session rn. but think abt this: to have solidarity with sex workers, one must understand that sex work is real labor, and labor under capitalism is coercive, therefore, soliciting sex from a sex worker is coerced sex (i.e. r***). johns are r***ists, to deny this is to deny the material reality of sex work, and insulting to sex workers
So far, the criticisms that have caused struggle sessions wind up being about pretty mild stuff.
Off the top of my head: he frequently uses ableist language, like using "schizophrenic" as an insult.
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I dont watch streams either , his clips started appearing in my yt suggestions !
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Good guy, great for baby leftists, he did a livestream with Adam Conover walking on the WGA picket lines talking about the history of unions, which is better than 99% of the rest of twitch imo
No thoughts on him but I find it interesting how the trueanon and CTH subreddits were more left than the podcasters but hasanabi's audience is more right than hasanabi
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He's become the best first step on the leftwing pipeline, replacing Breadtube and the Dirtbag left podcasters, which honestly isn't saying all that much.
I dunno, we work with what we got. Just saying that I'd rather point baby leftists to
rather than Contrapoints now.I just realised we need The Deprogram and Blowback emojis now tho lol.
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i dont think hasan is a baby's first leftism. just because he is usually the first leftist political personality the youngins get introduced too doesnt mean theres people out there more left than him. hasan is basically as far left as you can get and is at the end of the pipeline more than anything.
He's pretty good actually. I don't watch his content because he spends too much time yelling at chatters but 90% of what I've seen is good. My main issue with him was some ace-exclusionary comments he made a while back but he's grown past that now.
Tbh most content i have seen by him is talking about the GOP candidates and he is yelling , it feels like he is a dem , dods not talk much about theory , in a recent video he did talk about few good things but apart from that idk !
I'm not gonna type too many words defending him, he's a millionaire after all. Great class traitor though.
A lot of the american-LA based leftist “influencers” are just fishing for a potential future career. Hasan is too “deep in the system”.
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I'm a pretty regular view I think he tones his message. He has becoming more and more willing to call out lies about China. It also helps that deprogram guys are a larger part of left leaning Internet culture.
Oh no i'm talking about Internet personalities I have brain worms
That link didn't work for me for some reason, but this one does.
Extremely based.
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He's the antidote to vaush type fake "left" liberals, he's extremely useful and a rare genuine pipeline for the left
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antidote?
Stinkin auto-correct
Gateway leftist, it’s all okay, don’t get attached to Internet personalities, if you like listening it’s fine, just don’t be parasocial with podcasters.
hasan isnt a gateway, he is a leftist. as long as you ignore the contradictions of him living in a hollywood mansion and engaging in treat culture, the dude is a very important internet personality because hes basically using his immense wealth and privilege to do praxis like every day. hes a bourgeoisie class traitor like fredrich engles. nothing less than complete uncritical support for hasan should be from this website. he is far more influential here than the chapo podcast.
Idk to what extent you can call him "bourgeoisie". He's rich, for sure, but he's not profiting off of anyone else's labor and twitch/amazon is directly profiting off of his.
He doesn't own a factory or a business with employees working for him. Unlike most workers, he has more agency over his own work but he still has to run a certain minimum amount of advertisements as dictated by the platform owners, for example.
I don't know enough theory to know where exactly the line is or if a certain amount of wealth just makes you bourgeois anyway, but yeah, I don't think it's that clear cut with our favorite gorillion-dollar-gucci-mansion-socialist.
"very important internet personality" is a contradiction in terms and streaming isn't "praxis" in any sense, but otherwise i agree with the general thrust of your argument
Some bad takes, but an important part of the pipeline to convert babies to leftism.
seems like a lovely guy. his streams aren't for me tho. the arguments about whether a communist can own a fancy car are stupid.
oh yeah and he's sexy
he's hot
Pinely is hotter 🥵🥵🥵
If it wasn't for hasan I wouldn't have discovered bell hooks, J sakai, Carol Anderson, Hetronormativity, comp het, and cussy.
He seems to have done a decent job of radicalising people from my own small surveying of the situation.
I don't hear other streamers getting mentioned anywhere near as often as Hasan when people discuss their path towards radicalisation, for whatever that's worth.
I have never watched a full stream of his but he seems fine from clips that I've seen. I have seen him doing the typical streamerbro response/react videos and there's the inevitable drama streams etc. along with him keeping up with the hot take cycle so, y'know, he'll talk about Oppenheimer or the Barbie movie or whatever because it's relevant to pop culture at the moment.
I think he probably fills a similar niche to something like The Dollop which is leftwing content with emphasis on content (in the worst interpretation of the word). If that's what people on the left find interesting or entertaining then cool. I'd rather people be exposing themselves to left wing content than Fox News or whatever.
But at the same time there's a trap in that streamerbros aren't going to teach you theory and The Dollop is not a viable substitute for praxis but thinking that it is can lead people astray; consuming content isn't doing a leftism.
I'd say that if he feels like a liberal to you then that's probably a good indication that your own ideological development surpasses whatever he offers in his streams, which is a good sign and it means that you're looking for something more theory-heavy and less about the almighty content.
I have grown up with the content , mostly books , and marxist leninist literature that my father has collected , I even tried to get into theory then , but it was too hard for me to understand then , however I took baby steps then.
He is a really great part about of the pipeline if you know what I mean
Yes ! The pipeline !
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He’s hot
Personally I enjoy watching him, more than other streamers. As others have said, he's important for the pipeline. What I will add is, for better or worse depending on how you look at it, he's a "dude's dude" which I think helps with the dumb "socialist soyboy" stereotype bs.
Streamers get the wall. Sorry, no exceptions
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Did a bunch of shit like having been a John and other stuff (Brofessor), which he seems to regret. Wouldn't say he "radicalizes" people bc to me that means pushing people into violent/open to violence when tactically sound, instead of making them say controversial things. I still don't trust him or his audience, but people get really angry when you poke at their idols, so whatever.
Keep watching him and giving him 5 bucks if that is what you want. There are worse people. I am sure you are doing your part while watching him showcase gucci slippers and talking about how good trains are.
He seems like the best of the political twitch streamers. But that is a very low standard. I dislike the kind of content he creates so I never really viewed his videos beyond just a few times a few years ago. He does give me somewhat of a liberal feeling as well. Especially when people imply he has actual political significance beyond just entertainment media.
Just don't ask him about the DPRK
He's the rare anti-imperialist socdem
I love Hasan. I'm not going to pretend that he's a ML, but calling him a liberal is pretty insulting. He frequently defends and is friends with many MLs. His takes on the PRC and the DPRK are very much lacking in nuance and he seems uninformed when it comes to the material conditions that lead to the situation in Ukraine. Otherwise, I tend to agree with him on most other things.
Ultimately, he's creating entertainment. If you're tuning in to hear a dialectical materialist perspective on world events, then there are much more appropriate sources. If you're looking to be informed with regard to the word vomit that liberal and conservative (and mostly USAian) media present to their audience without wanting to gouge out your eyes and ears, he manages to make this entertaining while still providing very good counter-commentary.
he gud
he's as much of a lib as any of you here tho
Fair
Basically alright for such a public facing figure?
Not a regular watcher, so I might have missed something
I dislike how he is a debate bro/live streamer and do disagree on some finer points of his takes, but broad strokes I find him acceptable.
Why do you think he's a liberal?
Most of his content in recent past , is exclusively anti GOP ( republican ) , may be i need to watch his streams , but whatever gets filtered to youtube feels like that ! And while there are similar things all libs do ,I dont see on his YT.
He wants to reach as wide of an audience as possible, by dunking on the GOP he can expose libs to actual leftist thought
YouTube is a bit more curated (a fair bit of his anti dem speech is in response to twitch comments), but he has regularly criticized the dems and promotes leftist ideals like class consciousness, multipolarity, and solidarity
Hes ok for a lib
Maybe veering a bit off-topic here, but what does he do? I mean, what does a streamer actually do aside from play games on stream? Does he like talk about politics while gaming, or do people just tune in to hear him speak randomly? I'm getting old.
He streams on average like 12 hours a day, almost 7 days a week. The majority is news coverage from a left perspective, mostly US News, sometimes he will play currently trending games he's interested in once news is done, or do react content be it political or something else.
He's recently live streamed his participation in the SAG/AFTRA strike with Adam Conover, and had several strikers on stream (including Adam) to talk about the strike. He had the Union leader for the Amazon Labor Union on not long after they won their union.
He's definitely a "personality". Some show up for the news, some only show up for the games, some show up because he's a himbo. They all end up exposed to a left perspective at some point. He averages 30K concurrent viewers, as high as 60K to 100K if something big is happening in the news. So he has a good amount of reach. Not everyone there shares his world view, but more then 0 percent do get their views changed.
More like a talk show yeah, he doesn't game much
Interesting. I wonder how people get to that point, you know? Nobody would tune in to watch Mr. Joaomarrom rambling on twitch. What does it take to make people want to hear what I have to say, to the point where they're actively giving me money for my opinions?
I suppose the same could be asked about any podcast or any public figure. Man I wish people would just pay to watch me speak to the computer.
it's kind of like those AM talk radio shows that last like 5 hours, but even longer and worse for his health
Grifter with a cash crop. All twitch streamers are bad
Idk, I just despise streaming
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Death to America
he's pretty hot
