Fears of peace talks

What kind of bullshit Orwellian headline is this? Peace is GOOD, stopping the bloodshed is GOOD. We WANT less people to die.

Fears of peace talks

Peace bad, war good!

Did I get that right?

If Ukraine enters peace talks now, have they gained anything or put their country in a better position since the original peace talks, which were sabotaged by Boris Johnson and British intelligence, over a year ago? Have they gained any significant territory since what was proposed then? Is their army in a stronger position? Are any gains since then worth the losses?

Just looking at it from a purely pragmatic and realpolitik perspective, I don't see how anyone can argue that Ukraine has gained anything significant in this stalemate of a conflict. If they get similar results now, as what was on the table originally at the first peace talks, it means that their Western backers essentially sold a pipe dream to Ukraine that never materialised. Is the collective West ready to explain that to Ukraine, and the rest of the world? That they used Ukraine as a testbed for their weaponry against Russia, sold Ukraine a utopian fantasy that they'd be able to regain significant territory using Western weapons and tactics which never happened, and hundreds of tens to hundreds of thousands of people got killed or injured to accomplish very little.

These Baltic and Polish dipshits should just be airdropped on to the frontlines if they want the war to continue so badly.

Without parachutes.

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Fears of peace

USA swines: Dammit how the peace can happen

Great, another Hexbear brigading thread. Hexbear needs to be defederated, it's a bunch of fake communists spreading authoritarian propaganda.

I don't believe this for one second. I haven't heard anything from the Ukraine administration that would suggest in any way that they are interested in peace talks. In fact, their recent choice of putting a Crimean Tatar as the Minister of Defence suggests that they are serious about taking Crimea back from Russia. I hear nothing but absolute resolve by both the Weat and Ukraine to keep fighting until a Ukraine victory.

fears of peace

Sounds about right when it comes to what wine cave warriors crave and what they fear losing.

Worst fucking title.

Fear of peace? That's pretty fucked up.

Please upvote this comment if you are a liberal and this headline gave you pause and maybe a nagging "are we the baddies?" moment of reflection

This is great news

Fears of peace

Death to America

Russia has done horrible things to the Ukrainian people for a good century now. I hope the Ukraine doesn't get pressured into giving its land and people over to Putin. Any deal needs to give Ukraine all its territory back, and for Russia to keep its military off their border.

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It would probably be a good thing if there can be an end to conscripts killing conscripts.

Fears of peace talks

Seems like mask off moment. Now i will read the comments if i suspect the resident liberal warmongers are still on their lines.

EDIT: The condensed copium cloud over liberal posts is even denser than imagined, with multiple layers.

Wow, that is some bad title. I would say concerns are justified if Russia can just keep annexing chunks from other countries. It started with Georgia and Ukraine and we can see the same events happening in Moldova currently.

Also if Russia were to share a proper border with Poland then that's pretty much guaranteed WW3, Poland hates Russia with a passion.

...I'm sure Ukraine would gladly put down their arms and watch Russia fight eastern European countries instead, if they really want to make this their fight instead of Ukraine's.

It’s not “peace” if Russia gains territory. Then it’s capitulation.

"SMO" really shows where you get your info from. You support a dictator / maffia boss, you support genocide, and you are on the losing side.

Your shit army couldn't even invade a country properly because of all the corruption going on and now you're being kicked out.

Russia is the laughing stock and black sheep of the world and it will take decades to rid itself of that mark. Your smart and strong men flew the country because fuck that, they're not dying for Putin's bullshit. The only few counties left willing to trade with you are squeezing your balls because they know they can. Russia hasn't been this week since it's founding, and you better start worrying about olgout other borders and your internal affairs. Russia is what it is because it suppressed millions. Now that it's falling appart, those suppressed will stand up, and china, I'm sure, would love to annex a piece of Russia.

You're fucked.

"Mother Russia is strong"

Oh god, you are funny.

Mother Russia is near death at this point. The world has seen that the Russian army can't even invade small parts of a country that is a fraction if its own size. Corruption in your army os so rampant that your vehicles have been falling apart by themselves.

Mother Russia is the laughing stock of the world, at this point and due to the genocide being perpetrated, it's also hated and a black sheep for decades to come.

Russia won't be able to get high tech equipment anymore dor anything.

Your mothers lost their sons because all the smart and rich ones fled the country. Phuket has a nice "alternative invasion" of young Russian men that fled your country and its a single example. Young men that now are removed from your economy and that is on too of the thousands of dead of your shitty laughingly called "smo"

Rich countries no longer want to trade with Russia so your mother is limited to the few countries left that will squeeze her balls because they know they can.

Be careful mother Russia, china has seen how disgustingly weak you are and might help a few other areas in Russia to revolt and become independent Chinese pawns.

Mother Russia is fucked, and if you don't know that then you're even more pathetic than I thought.

The fake progressive right wing warmongers of lemmy sitting in their comfortable spaces from across the globe are going to be upset at the prospect of peace.