11mo ago

China’s Great Wall of Villages: China has moved thousands of people to new settlements on its frontiers. It calls them “border guardians.”

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China’s Great Wall of Villages

11mo ago

China’s Great Wall of Villages: China has built over 50 new villages along its western frontiers in recent years, 12 of them in areas claimed by other countries, satellite imagery finds

www.nytimes.com /interactive/2024/08/10/world/asia/china-border-villages.html

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11mo ago

China’s Great Wall of Villages: China has built over 50 new villages along its western frontiers in recent years, 12 of them in areas claimed by other countries, satellite imagery finds

www.nytimes.com /interactive/2024/08/10/world/asia/china-border-villages.html

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So China plays literally The Settlers.
- Aah, The Settlers 2 is amazing! Might need to reinstall next week to play a bit...
  
  Yup one of the best games I've played
Operation Human Shield?
So Mongolia is not a threat?
- They’re the exception.
  
  I understood that reference
Just based on the title it sounds sensible to me. I assume there's some incentive that makes the people want to do this
- China is paying them to live there. They're also inside disputed territories.
- Highly fucking useful pointing out that you can't be bothered to read or understand!
Isn't this what the United States did, just without the genocide?
_{yes, I know they too have committed genocide but I'm referring specifically to this action}
- I mean yes, only the US did it more than a hundred years ago. A more modern comparison would be Israel, and, well... yeah.
- Yeah, and it also somewhat happens as a consequence of building military infrastructure there too. Military bases need people to staff them, and those people need food, water, entertainment etc etc
- Canada too (1953). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Arctic_relocation
  I'm sure it is wrong, but it also the way geopolitics is played.
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China bad? This is so obviously framed as aggression by China. This smells of pro-war propaganda, reprogramming people to expect a coming war with China. Be weary of the sneaky China man on your borders! Next they'll tell us Taiwan should join Nato.
Meanwhile the New York Times is supporting Trump and thus supporting fascism.
- I mean building villages in areas claimed by other countries is kind of a dick move huh.
  
  If you've ever been to China there is already villages everywhere, including on these borders. They are just doing the same thing they did to Xinjiang, pack it with easterners to dilute the local population and strengthen its claims. YouTuber "Little Chinese Everywhere" just did a tour of some of these villages bordering Nepal and India.
  
  But building villages in areas claimed by your own country would be fine, right?
  This is the problem with this article, it just assumes that China's claims are illegitimate. I don't know that. Do you? I DO know the new york times has lied in the past and is supporting fascism at this moment. So coming from an unreliable source, this claim should be treated with very much suspicion since it's used to justify a narrative. This article just glosses over the presumably complex historical and international legal questions. But even the fascist supporting new york times makes it clear that China isn't claiming vast swathes of land, but it's merely creeping on the border of disputed areas.
- This is one of the dumber conspiracies. No one anywhere on the political spectrum wants war with China. It would lead to an immediate economic disaster, so rich people don't want it either.
  
  But the military-industrial complex profits from making it seem like there's an impending war with China.
  I suppose it's also true that China doesn't want war, but if they could claim some of those disputed territories without war I'm sure they wouldn't complain.

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