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graphito @sopuli.xyz

7mo ago

Obsidian can't handle several thousand of notes

Comments are: it's to be expected

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200 MB modern application built on top of Chrome can’t handle a few files.
Emacs from the 70/80s can handle a thousand files. Something is wrong with computers.
- Nothing is wrong with computers. Something is wrong with developers.
  "You WILL accept our defined use cases for you. We aren't interested in writing robust software. We're interested in writing it badly in 2 days so we can spend the rest of the money on marketing."
  
  I'm sure most developers would prefer spending the necessary time to write something good. The problem is perverse incentives in the corporate model.
- This. I also wonder when people will realize that having more RAM doesn't mean having to use it all (electron, looking at you)
  
  I think most operating systems today are designed to make opportunistic use of available RAM but also fuck electron

This is expected behaviour though?
Realisticly, it would be beyond wrong to have every file in ram at all times, or process's every file to any extend when it is not in immediate use or you are in a search field or link/back link Dialog.
Try copy pasting 2GB of data into your vim and you will find it takes quite a while for everything to be pasted. When you drag and drop via the UI in obsidian and you do that with thousands of files, then this is not very surprising to slow your application. Assuming obsidian wants to make the files available as soon as possible, I presume it parses/indexes them immediately one after the other instead of one big block.
My vault is about 1.5k files, all interlinked in some way (ignoring larger pictures or PDFs). Making a new vault and drag and dropping all of them in lags quite a bit for quite a while, but once everything is loaded its fine.
- Yeah, if it's only about the import, then obviously it would be nice, if it was more robust with that, but it's not nearly as bad.

I really hope this isn't the case, at the rate I've been using Obsidian i will probably hit the thousands later this year.
- But do you plan on importing thousands of files at once?
- @recklessengagement @graphito I have some 15K notes in Obsidian and it runs fine. That said, my system specs are at the higher end… that also said, it‘s Electron, it can‘t grab ressources indefinitely.

My vault is a couple thousand files, works fine!
Only have a few plugins though

Might want to crosspost to !obsidianmd@lemmy.world too
- Unfortunately, it's pretty much pointless to point out real widespread problems to the official communities.
  It's populated by crowd of paid shills and dog pilers who will gladly blame user for any problem, refuse to admit the problem exist, contradict your words and just straight up lie using marketing double speak & sophistry
  You can't make person to see, when she's paid not to see
  
  Unofficial Lemmy community for https://obsidian.md
  It's not the official community, that'd be the forums and maybe the Discord, so I'm confused. Do you mean communities specifically focused on it are likely to have that kind of person too?
  Also, the image you posted seems to defend Obsidian from criticism, so I was pretty surprised to get a reply from you talking about shills, about negative reception to criticism because the people in the conversation are paid actors.
  Putting all my cards on the table, I am an Obsidian user who enjoys it. I saw this post in PKMS got lots of upvotes, and my motive here is Fediverse engagement, which is why I thought this would make a nice crosspost.

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