Democrats Now Openly Admit They Pushed Biden to Block Bernie
Democrats Now Openly Admit They Pushed Biden to Block Bernie
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17672200
I’ve said this over and over again, (...) Joe Biden was not picked in 2020 because he was the only person that could beat Trump. He was picked because he was the only person that could beat Bernie Sanders, rightly or wrongly. … That conclusion was made, okay? “Oh my gosh, coming out of Nevada, Bernie Sanders is going to be the nominee!” And people, just like they are now, said, “Ahhh, I don’t think that’s going to work,” so they were looking for an alternative.
Adam Smith
I was an elite that supported (Biden) in 2020, (...) And said that we should do everything we possibly could do to advantage (Biden) against Bernie Sanders, because I thought Bernie Sanders’ politics were detrimental to the party and to the country.
Harold Ford
This seems to be the gist of the article.
And the party.
Former congressman Harold Ford, former chair of the Democratic Leadership Council and banking executive, made a similar point on Fox. “I was an elite that supported you in 2020,” Ford said. “And said that we should do everything we possibly could do to advantage you against Bernie Sanders, because I thought Bernie Sanders’ politics were detrimental to the party and to the country.”
From Harold Ford's Wiki
In April 2021, Ford joined Fox News as a political contributor.[7] He frequently appears on Special Report as a panel member and was named a co-host of The Five in January 2022.
Hey great going democratic party leadership, you've always looked like incompetent morons, now you look like corrupt incompetent morons!
SHOULD HAVE BEEN BERNIE. YOU STOLE OUR FUTURE TO PRESERVE YOUR PRESENT PROFITS.
SHOULD HAVE BEEN BERNIE. YOU STOLE OUR FUTURE TO PRESERVE YOUR PRESENT PROFITS.
I'm not sure we should be so pessimistic yet. They blocked a candidate but did nothing to kill it's popularity. As long as we don't succumb to Fascism within the next four years, there's still a massive base of voters that would vote for a socialist in the '28 primary, and the left democrats will have had 12 years since Bernie's first campaign to build up the infrastructure for it by that point.
They blocked a candidate but did nothing to kill it's popularity
Nothing? I can think of a few laws that are killing minorities rn, and let's not get stared on the police...
"Fox News pundit now openly admits wanting to YET AGAIN fool people into helping billionaires get gigantic GOP tax cuts like in 2016 which was Bernie's worst nightmare".
2016: PROFITS WERE INCREASED GREATLY
SHOULD HAVE BEEN BERNIE.
We should have had more people wanting to vote Bernie. Absolutely. Too bad you didn't work hard enough on that.
TO PRESERVE YOUR PRESENT PROFITS.
Biden raised the minimum corporate tax from 0% to 15%, and skillfully did it with the votes of 2 senators who are now independents.
2020: PROFITS WERE NOT PRESERVED.
Good going. Let's argue and divide the Democrats when it needs unity the most.
If you don't want evidence of fuckery coming out, it's pretty easy not to engage in fuckery in the first place.
We held our noses and voted for him despite everything we knew in 2020. What did that get us? A genocide halfway across the world.
This time around I decided to believe Biden when he says he is a Zionist. He demonstrated it over 30,000 times so far.
When OP is a closet Republican this is no surprise
I wondered what was gonna replace "bot" as the go-to bogus accusation.
jacobin doesn't want unity; jacobin wants to elect far right republicans.
For accelerationism, right?
Reluctantly, I gave the piece a fair shake.
It's garbage. We know that the DNC pushed other more moderate candidates out so that a more moderate candidate, one the average democratic voter and independent thinks they want, could win instead of them all splitting the vote. This was obvious, not some conspiracy theory.
The author of the piece is trying to claim that because one person said they chose a candidate that could beat sanders, that was the ultimate goal. But they wanted to beat sanders because they felt he couldn't beat trump. They quote one person effectively saying this, but then dishonestly spin it.
The second quote is one person saying that he thinks sanders policies are bad, as if this proves anything.
It's amazing anyone reads this site without realizing how terrible it is.
Of course the corporate democratic side of the house wouldn't want Bernie. He was a threat to the status quo and they couldn't have that. Shifting money back to the middle class from the ultra rich? But it's the ultra rich that keep bank rolling them. How could they possibly go against that? Instead they discredited an honest, good guy who actually espouses the values out of their good book.
I just wish they could get on message and get in lock step about a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g. It's the only reason the right is successful at this point. Yep, their policies are garbage, but look at them rally around their trash fire and start dancing to the drums.
Yeah, how is this a shock to people? If they can't have their own neoliberals in office, they would absolutely prefer to lose to another neoliberal than win with a progressive.
America desperately needs preferential voting.
Because like most other politicians many of the "democrats" are slaves to their billionaire masters too
Its not unexpexted and doesn't matter. I'm stil voting and it will be for whoever is running against Trump.
This is the democracy we are told that needs to be saved by Re-Electing Biden.
Every gambler knows
\ That the secret to surviving
\ Is knowing what to throw away
\ Knowing what to keep
\ 'Cause every hand's a winner
\ And every hand's a loser
\ And the best that you can hope for
\ Is to die in your sleep
There's nothing antidemocratic in people organizing to oppose the candidate they don't like. That's just regular democracy.
Wouldn't it be nice to vote for something?
The corporate democrats pulling off the masks once again. Now that Joe Biden is pro labour they want to throw him under the bus as well.
This was never in doubt, it was said from the beginning. The fear is that someone who refers to themselves as a socialist cannot win in the rust belt swing states. Pro-labor positions in general don't do well in the midwest, it's a central area in the fight to dismantle unions.
Not that Hilary won them either though.
The fear is that someone who refers to themselves as a socialist cannot win in the rust belt swing states.
Democrats' fear is that they can.
I don't think you've ever spent much time in the rust belt if you think that region of Trump country wouldn't have a very negative knee-jerk reaction to just the simple word. They very much like the idea of income inequality, the whole "if I work hard enough, I can be Jeff Bezos too" idea. They do not understand things like systemic advantage, sounds too woke.
Left: It sure is a huge problem that there’s such a bipartisan effort in Washington to be corporate trash
Lemmy: YEAH FUCK THE DEMOCRATS
Left: I think we should get involved, maybe we could do campaign finance reform or get rid of FPTP or strengthen the progressive wing of the Democrats, or idk, fuckin something, this is horrible
Lemmy: LET’S LET THE FASCIST WIN
We didn't need them to admit it, and Bernie endorsed Biden just the other day. It wouldn't surprise me if Biden were being pushed out the exact same way for being "too progressive." The fact that the left wing of the DNC has been supporting him suggests this is the case.
That's odd because the only reason there's leverage to remove Biden is because the party thought he wasn't progressive enough in terms of Gaza.
Removing him because of his terrible debate is only politically feasible for Democrats because he has been losing in head-to-head polls since almost exactly October 7th.
I think AOC and Sanders are probably thinking of something else. My hunch, is they assume Republicans will challenge the existence of any Democrat on the ballot not named Joe Biden for some sort of rules violation, the decision will go to the Supreme Court, and the court will decide on returning 45 to the White House.
Yeah and you push Clinton and look how 2016 ended up. And now we're not just in hell, but living on the precipice of straight up fascism. Thanks guys.
ah jacobin; the gateway pundit of the online left.
Is RealClearPolitics unreliable too?
What a bunch of BS
Let's see what the Lemmy far left echo chamber say about this..
We are literally all arguing over if Biden needs to go or not and you call it an echo chamber? The left is as fractured as it has always been. It's like herding cats. That's one thing I like about it. The range of ideas.
It's the right that matches in lockstep behind their great leader no matter what. I'll read some right-leaning article somewhere, and the next day, most of the right is regurgitating the same damn thing. Like the whole comparing trans people transitioning to lobotomies from the 50s? I can link you the exact article that shit all came from, because I've read it. They don't have any original thoughts of their own.
Did you read the article? Apparently not. The title here is dumb and misleading to the contents. One person's theory is not "Democrats".
The entire article reads like some sad right-wing hopium. Dumb as hell.
It doesn't seem to be completely unfounded, the whole article is that the writer had an impression that this was the case back in 2020, and now two highly placed Dems came out with statements to support that impression.
IDK how many other layers this has though. That said, there seemed to have been a concerted effort to deny Bernie the nomination when all the dropouts happened at the same time, all endorsing Biden who has not been doing that well before.
If you want an echo chamber, head on over to reddit. There’s tons of power-hungry MAGA mods there with an agenda to push.
No, they want a blue MAGA echo chamber, not a red MAGA echo chamber. And evidently they have never heard of r/Enough_Sanders_Spam.
Oh my gosh, universal, tax-paid healthcare, higher education, and increased worker protections. So detrimental. Things most of Europe and even our neighbor to the North handles just fine.
And y'all think these people are still on the left in any way, shape, or form?