"I’m just focusing on the present because the future is depressing"
"I’m just focusing on the present because the future is depressing"
Yes, let's treat these people who have lost all hope for the future like bratty children, I'm sure that will work.
Fuck these articles.
To any gen Z reading this, don't fall for the shaming. They did the same shit to us Millennials and all it did was make us work for nothing and burn out. Your boss just wants more production and profit at the cost of your body and mind.
You are worth more than what they're offering. You deserve a future.
I fully support NEETism if that’s what you call it. I’m a Zillennial or whatever the fuck and I’ve worked my entire adult life in the trades. FUCK WORK. There are no jobs that pay enough, the hours are long, and no one gives a fuck about you. Never feel bad for not having a job, you deserve to live however you want. If I was born even a few years later than I was I’d be a fuckin NEET too. There is no incentive AT ALL to do ANYTHING it’s crazy to think people wouldn’t act this way.
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I'm a millennial with a PhD and more disillusionment than ever. I hope that gen z keeps fighting the good fight, and I'll help them wherever I can. It can only make my life better.
Thats crazy its almost like its a rational response to the only options in life as a worker which are to work and destroy your mind and body for the worst jobs humanly possible for the worst pay legally possible for the opportunity to have marginally more money to spend in a dying society on a dying planet or do that as little as possible
"But the youngin's have it easy!" :smuglord: - average boomer capitalist
Boomers got handed the american dream on a platter during the zenith of the american empire. Of course if they were white and male that is, women and minorities still got a boot to the face.
We talk a lot here about how pointless it is to vote but it’s way worse for capitalism if we are unemployed, simply because we refuse to generate labor for the capitalist class. I’ve been thinking about this because I’ve been working full-time for almost three months after being unemployed for years and it just sucks to be aware that even the wages I get eventually end up back in the Cayman Islands, where they are then reinvested in blowing up Palestinian children.
love to have my taxes used to arm nazis and burn children alive. the more money I make, the more guns nazis get
But if you don't fund the Nazis and dead kids with your labor, then YOU are the one who gets to starve to death 🙃
Great system
Every 6 months they need to come up with a new "quiet quitting" term to try to yet again defelct from the lack of material conditions.
Calling 15-18 year olds "NEET" is a wild one.
I think it's okay to take a gap year after high school, and take breaks from employment, education, and training now and then.
Just don't do it for too long or you'll turn into
If you're 15 and you're not in education or an apprenticeship/training of some kind, the state has failed you.
True, but students doing an apprenticeship/training is a bit more rare than just receiving a general secondary education.
I would be okay with a generation of Felixs
15-18 yos? The oldest of Gen Z are about to turn 30. Not saying they're justified, just that Gen Z isn't just 15.
In their defense, the youngest members of Gen Z are around that age range.
To be fair, child labor is legal again so these 15 year olds could already have 5-9 years of experience under their belt. They are being lazy and entitled by loafing about in school and learning how to read.
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Ask your friend about the literal state of American university labs versus everywhere else. They’re dirty, disorganized, dysfunctional, and everything comes down to potential profitability
It's funny because back in the day you had all the "gentlemen scholars" who had the free time to read and invent new science. Sleep all day because they spent all night watching the skies etc. Nowadays you pair every lab endeavor to the question of making maximum profit in the shortest time and then the people at the top of the pyramid wonder why other countries are catching up or overtaking us in science and tech.
It's like the same shit as them asking about why kids have short attention spans while you can't even watch a 3 minute video on youtube without it being bookended by ads shouting at you and blasting you with light and color so that the people who make Mt Dew Cheeto Taquito Chewing Gum can make 1.2% more next year.
Like goddamn, guys. If I was younger I wouldn't give a fuck about perpetuating the misery machine, either.
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Yeah, there is very little incentive to do well. Especially for U.S. graduate and doctoral students. Even if you do do very well, the best thing that will happen for most of them if they stay in the U.S. is that they will be taken and paid alot of money to not do research for the competition, because no-one really works on anything interesting anymore. All of the cool chemistry and industrial technologies stuff comes from China and Europe.
The problem is that the assumption is that if you had to go do a doctorate, you weren't smart (or connected) enough to dropout and become an entrepreneur. It's a really really bad system that creates huge disincentives from learning about things and pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Instead it the incentive is to learn how to do marketing and graft better.
They can still work in weapons development!
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In China it couldn't have been more different.
I'm not so sure https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_ping
And maybe 996 is a bad system perhaps.
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If there was a future worth planning for they might behave differently. What's the point in saving up cash or buying a house or having kids when during education you've sat in classrooms discussing the upcoming literal end of the world through climate change?
All these kids have looked at the evidence for it and come to this conclusion.
its almost like we have surplus productivity and extra labor is unnecessary
don't let the capitalist class know this, or the purges will begin of the unneeded "excess labor"
Great way for them to pound the accelerator
Could it be that entry level positions require 12 years experience and don't even offer a living wage? No, it must be because the kids these days are lazy.
It's rich that they have been spouting that "young'uns are lazy and will never be as cool as us boomers!" for almost 12 years and won't see the irony. It's the same tired mental masturbation I've seen all my life.
Maybe they will get real answers if they actually let gen Z and millennials speak rather than have another baby boomer speak on our behalf.
I was a neet for a couple of years. honestly with how little I work these days it still feels like I am one sometimes. feels like there's no point in participating when the country doesn't want to give anything back to you.
Someone once told me every hour and American works they make $90 for the economy. So if, let's say, they had to give $30 of that to income tax and $30 for the business why does the worker at minimum get $7.25?
I was told by family that I no longer associate with that a minimun wage was meant to b a "starter wage." Like they were implying that working as a teen/young adult was meant for practice. I've also been told by another lib that "both sides", as in Dems and Reps, need to "come to a compromise on minimum wage." Which means, of course, still less than a minimum living(last I talked to that guy, he was selling his second Corvette since he didn't need it but obviously was an authority on minimum wage). The thing is that people that are only slightly smarter than these 2 I mention run this country. Everything is fucked Death to America.
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It's actually only like eight hundred and six people they're not smarter nor are they worth as much as they make but what they do have is unbreakable class solidarity to decide the rest of our standard of living.
I know it's meme but you had me until the doomerism. America is every man, woman and critter that has worked to make sure my family has electricity, clean running water, healthcare and shelter just as I work for their families to have the same. So I can't in good conscious wish to end that.
But hit me up when we're ready to dismantle the owning class that decides who has access to these standards of living.
If you get $7.25 why would $30 go to income tax? Shows the disparity is even greater than you outline.
Can't really blame them honeslty
I guess I would qualify as a NEET. I don't work and never got a degree or certification in anything. I'm also gen Z. My fiance pays the rent currently, but if it ever came down to a "work or lose your home" situation I'd get a part time job at least.
I've spent most of the last 4 years or so making shit attempts at organizing (mostly adventurism if I'm being honest) spent some time in some orgs, but otherwise I've been pretty lost. I fucking hate reading, but I manage to read something theory related every month or so. I feel like I have to do something, but I realize all the time that I am woefully ill equipped to change my conditions and that leads to me getting a tad defeatist.
I've found many of my peers are in similar situations, wanting the world to change but not having the tools to fix it.
Oh no! I’m not doing child labor!
This is me
I'm just focusing on the present because the future is depressing
Literally me, except my present is also depressing. And my past. I just dissociate
