I've been reading the discussion around this EFF article all day and it's fucking exhausting.

@bloopernova What KF users get out of KF? Some people just like being assholes to other people, and KF is an outlet for them to do just that.

What's exhausting is just how hot the discourse is around the article. No, I don't like how law enforcement hasn't seized KF and arrested its owners and operators despite ample evidence and opportunity. No, I also don't like the idea of ISP's breaking net neutrality and determining which site to take down based on outside pressure (who/how many/how heatedly/etc).

I don't see one pure, unalloyed solution to the problem. There are many realities that prevent the best solutions from happening: the "no duty to protect" dysfunction of US policing, the privatization of a public internet infrastructure, the radicalization pipelines embedded in conservative institutions and parties and ideologies, wealth and class disparity... too many societal factors play into this story. And when you zoom out to try to put it all in scope, to solve the root causes of these problems, the problem scope becomes enormous and the focal point just vanishes.

For my two cents: a) I would be seriously reconsidering my position if I was on the opposite side of table to Krebs and Hutchins, not doubling down and calling them names, and b) imperfect solutions are still solutions, "don't let Perfect be the enemy of Good."