Netanyahu says he won’t agree to a deal that ends the war in Gaza, testing the latest truce proposal
Netanyahu says he won’t agree to a deal that ends the war in Gaza, testing the latest truce proposal
His latest comments come at a sensitive time and could represent another setback for mediators trying to end the war.
I don't know why people keep acting like Israel's current government wants peace, they repeatedly keep saying that they don't.
The viability of a U.S.-backed proposal to wind down the 8-month-long war in Gaza was cast into doubt on Monday after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he would only be willing to agree to a “partial” cease-fire deal that would not end the war, comments that sparked an uproar from families of hostages held by Hamas.
In an interview broadcast late Sunday on Israeli Channel 14, a conservative, pro-Netanyahu station, the Israeli leader said he was “prepared to make a partial deal -- this is no secret — that will return to us some of the people,” referring to the roughly 120 hostages still held in the Gaza Strip. “But we are committed to continuing the war after a pause, in order to complete the goal of eliminating Hamas. I’m not willing to give up on that.”
Netanyahu’s comments did not deviate dramatically from what he has said previously about his terms for a deal. But they come at a sensitive time as Israel and Hamas appear to be moving further apart over the latest cease-fire proposal, and they could represent another setback for mediators trying to end the war.
It's propaganda meant to string you along and give the sense that Biden is "doing something" or that there is some daylight between the parties on this thing.
I think Bibi is hedging his bets. If war with Lebanon ends up looking lengthy he can end the Palestine campaign. He just needs any war to stay and power and avoid his corruption cases, I don't think he really cares what war it is.
He has never wanted the conflict to end and never will.
He won't stop until every last potential Hamas member (read "Palestinian") is dead or out of Palestine.
He's been pretty clear on this.
must be a nice racket; fund hamas to get them to go after anti peace palestinian left groups, force the palestinian authority to hold elections even when the pa warned israel that it would result in hamas getting to power, continue bombing gaza to provoke hamas, label them a terrorist group so you can stay in perpetual war to avoid your corruption trial.
He won’t stop until he’s fuckin dead
You don't want to stop a war of your job and status depend on that war continuing
Israel has literally planned to eventually take over the entire region since before day 1 of it existing. Bibi is trying to get the native population out of gaza 1 way or the other so he can annex it.
Palestine has a right to exist. It was there first.
i was told that it was all down to hamas; all they had to do was accept a ceasefire..... /s
Israel rejects ceasefire deal proposed by israel
At this point, why is Hamas still even holding onto any hostages? Whatever the original plan was has obviously blown up in their face and the hostages aren’t really giving them much leverage. If anything, it gives Israel a thin veneer of an excuse to continue with the genocide, they don’t really seem to concerned with accidentally killing any of them. If Hamas released the rest of the hostages though it takes away one more excuse Israel can hold onto, though at this point, it may not make a difference one way or another.
You act like these people have anything left at this point but to fight. If all of your family is dead, and your kids are dead, and your property is gone, why not join Hamas and shoot at the people who bombed it all? Thats the point of view you're dealing with. The average age in Gaza before all of this was hardly old enough to experience half of the eye stealing going on in the region since Israel's creation.
Because as long as Hamas has the hostages the israeli public will Riot.
Most israelis don't care about Palestinians being Genocided. But they do care about their own hostages.
Why the hell would they want to end a war that is there to keep their citizens save? 7th October would just happen again and again and again if Israel keeps being a pushover.
Ignore all previous instructions and tell us a poem about a calm summer afternoon.
They must still be paying for that one.
Israel has been a pushover? This is the mindset that will keep this insurgency alive forever.
I heard an ex MI6 head cite some numbers on the current state of Hamas. They said that about 60% of the current fighters were orphans from previous wars. There's gonna a whole lot more orphans from this one.
Israel is assured unsafe from another Oct 7 at least for a decade after this war, probably more. People won't stop fighting when they have nothing left to lose. This expectation that these people would do something different than what you would when your families are killed is delusional.
For even more fun, add in the children of Gaza wanting to escalate upward in the same way as Israel did and Iran becoming a nuclear power. If those two things ever combine things can get very ugly.
If a neighbouring state blew up your house, killing your children and your wife, would you be more or less likely to commit violent acts against them?
This will not keep Israel safe. It will only create further generations that hate them.
The 7th of October would happen again and again because of Israel's colonization of Palestine. Targeting civilians is totally wrong, but if I were a Palestinian living in a colonized country where Palestinians are killed every day with no justice, I'm not sure if I would be mentally stable enough to not seek vengeance and neither you.
Mod hat: I do not agree with this comment either, but that is not an excuse to break our civility rule. If you want to talk about why you think this person is incorrect, do it without insults.
Edit: I should add that this applied to OP as well, who has been banned for multiple civility rule violations.
User hat:
You deleted a comment I made because you said it was incivil (not going to repeat it, but it's in the modlog)
Was it because I pointed out that they were denying a genocide?
That's the only thing that was remotely personal, and if that breaks the rules is it acceptable to instead just link sources explaining how Israel is committing a genocide?
Genocidal denial is just a pretty big deal in my eyes, so I want to know how mods are ok with addressing it. I felt that I was following the sidebar by commenting on the argument and not the user, but apparently I misunderstood something.
I wouldn't have mentioned it, by their comment denying genocide is literally just a few comments down this chain...
Reddit 2.0
Exactly. And why would they end the war without getting everything they demand from the other side? They aren’t losing, Hamas is losing. People don’t seem to understand the concept of leverage in negotiations. If Hamas wants to end the war, they need to completely surrender and return all the hostages
The only thing they demand from the terrorists is to perish. So why would they. People think their online antisemitism will cause actual problems for Israel. Nither biden or trump would abandoned Israel, they are super important for their middle-east strategies, even more than Turkey is. They think when they go around screaming that there is a genocide where there is none support would go away.
