"If you didn't want fascism you should have voted!"
"If you didn't want fascism you should have voted!"
"If you didn't want fascism you should have voted!"
This has to be the most brain dead community on Lemmy, still pulling this “Both sides” bullshit
I don't know on which community we currently are, but this is the most accurate depiction of what's actually going on. Democrats serve the corporate elite and don't really bother turning it left.
You aren’t wrong in that the democrats prefer the status quo but it’s far from both sides being the same. If we have to pick a side, and if we are still pro democracy, we do, there is only one correct choice.
Now if we can convince that side to then use the victory to change the rules, then so be it. For example, Ranked choice voting would be great, but let’s get more states to use it before expecting the highest office in the land to adopt it.
pro democracy
one correct choice
Pick one.
we are still pro democracy, we do, there is only one correct choice.
Western "democracy" in a nutshell. Catch-22 could only dream of such absurdity.
Now if we can convince that side to then use the victory to change the rules, then so be it.
The democrats are only in power for at most two years, and that's assuming there's no quislings like Lieberman or Fetterman or Manchin or Sinema in them. So they've barely got enough votes to move the needle on anything, and voting is low on the priority list.
And after two years the Republicans win one or both houses of Congress and maybe the presidency, and then undo everything.
This has been repeating my entire life, and now it's getting to the fascist endgame.
The system itself is broken and failing. It's not going to help us.
Stop with this braindead serve the elites meme. Dems last admin passed tons of left wing legislation that benefited everyone.
Intersting, I do not remember any means of production being turned over to the workers? I dont remember a law passed to remove the scehdual F capabilities, I do not remember stuffing the supreme court in retaliation for Roe being overturned. Heck I do not even remember stufing the Postal board of governors so full that it would fire DeJoy and ensure a reasonable PMG for over a decade... Please enlighten me, what left wing actions must I look at
I said left not commie.
Other than the first one none of those are communist. As for left there is nothing more left than communist, it can be argued, and I would be one that unless you are willing to give the workers the means of production, you cannot be left.
Yes but the rest are pointless since saying they passed a ton of left wing legislation isnt countered by listing random events that they didnt do.
We can go through all the events if you want. Schedule F was removed via EO on day 3 by biden and two house bills were drafted, one to remove the Schedule F workers that were classified and after that failed another was drafted to try and protect the workers who were reclassified by trump.
Packing the court out of retaliation is bad and every attempt in recent history has failed and I cant be fucked researching 'stuffing the postal board of governors" so you can have that. Dam I guess dems passed no left wing policy because they didnt stuff the postal board of governors.
If you don't like that party isnt 100% behind every single thing then the thing to do is focus on getting candiates you like in the states that have shit dems instead of trying to sink the entire party. If you sink the entire party you dont end up with more left wing legislation you end up with more right wing legislation.
The options you then present are basically "Every option is shit, vote for this option that doesnt exist and is unpopular with majority of the country"
All those left wing policies being implemented like:
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Is significantly reducing the cost of life saving medicine and giving families $300 a month per kid not left wing policy?
You're either incredibly uninformed or purposely undermining the left I can't tell which.
the child tax credit only lasted one year, and the cost reduction was only for the elderly
child tax credit only lasted one year
not true at all
the cost reduction was only for the elderly
Not true and even if it was 100% elderly people it is still a bill that grants significantly cheaper drugs for 65million people of a demographic that is the most in need of perscription medication. Which is a objectively a good bill and furthers left wing ideals. If you dont agree I genuinely dont believe you are on the left since you actively want a worse world.
Are you getting your info from google AI summaries, im genuinely curious how you are so confidently wrong.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics/inflation-reduction-act-medicare-insulin-cap/index.html
Senior citizens and other Medicare enrollees can now get a break on the cost of their insulin.
They won’t pay more than $35 a month for each insulin prescription that’s covered by their Medicare Part D plan. And they won’t be subject to a deductible for insulin.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-budget-tax-child-tax-credit-ctc-eitc-who-qualifies/
The CTC isn't a new tax credit — it's been around since the 1990s. But as the nation struggled to emerge from the pandemic in 2021, lawmakers expanded the $2,000 credit to as much as $3,600. As part of that expansion, families received half of the CTC in monthly checks over six months, providing them with as much as $300 per child for each of those months.
That expanded tax benefit, which proved to be immensely popular with families, also helped lift millions of kids out of poverty. Once it expired in 2022, the poverty rate for children soared.
I'll be amazed if they can read any of that and not go "erm actually that disagrees with my propaganda, I'm gonna call that fake news."
Wild how you can read all this and walk away thinking I'm the one who is wrong. They made the claim drug price reduction was only for elderly then linked a source that said it was for elderly and other Medicare enrollees. They made the claim CTC only lasted a year then linked a source that said it has been around since 1997 and is still around.
This should be a massive wakeup call to any reasonable person. If you still can't see that his statements were completely false.
So you linked something that said that the CTC didnt last a single year and that the drug price reduction wasnt only for old people. Thanks for proving me right now can I get an admission that you were completely wrong?
You know medicare is primarily for retirees, right?
Edit: since you only read the first sentence I quoted from CBS, here's the second:
But as the nation struggled to emerge from the pandemic in 2021, lawmakers expanded the $2,000 credit to as much as $3,600.
and the fourth
Once it expired in 2022, the poverty rate for children soared.
It should be free. Don't charge for life saving medicine.
It should be, but Americans still dont want universal healthcare. The last polling I saw had it at just over 50% supporting Universal healthcare. If you want to implement a huge change like universal healthcare you probably want to have at least 70% of the people on board. Otherwise you implement it and half the country tries to drag it down and make it unusable. Look at how the right wing in the UK is trying to destroy their national healthcare system.
Not at all. Making families buy life-saving medicine, at whatever price, is in fact the opposite of left-wing policy. Universal, single-payer health care is just centrist policy in many countries.
The extra $300 per month would be a better argument if they tried to keep it going instead of letting it lapse...
Its ending under trump. The 1 year of significantly boosted CTC was government assistance given to people. The right wing version of that would have been tax cuts for business. Could he have passed legislation that kept ctc at that amount, probably not and it would likely be repealed by Trump. Just because something could be better doesn't mean it isn't good. If you use "it could be better" as an justification for something being bad then people can say the same thing about things you mention. Oh yeah he passed boosted CTC forever well he should have increased it more, he should have given to to all families, he should just give that money to everyone. Lets be realistic instead of delusional so things in the real world can actually get better.
It ended under Biden along with most of the benefit increases we got because of covid. It was bad enough to have a massive spike in child poverty after decreasing.
Lets be realistic instead of delusional so things in the real world can actually get better.
Except that's not at all the case
The person claimed the child tax credit ended after only a year. Thats incorrect. Biden temporary increase to the child tax credit was allocated for a single year. After that the child tax credit continued.
The significant backsliding on child poverty that occurred after Congress allowed the Child Tax Credit expansion to expire underscores the fact that the number of children living in poverty is a policy choice. Recently there have been encouraging signs of bipartisan interest in a modest expansion. On January 31, 2024, in a strong bipartisan vote, the House passed a tax bill that included a Child Tax Credit expansion that, while far smaller than the Rescue Plan expansion, would help about 16 million children and lift a half million or more children above the poverty line in 2025.[1] Unfortunately, the legislation has been stuck in the Senate.
It ended under Biden. They didn't continue under the dems watch.
Again the issue is the dems keep ignoring easy wins to keep their donors happy
CTC only lasted 1 year
wait no I mean CTC ended under biden
well actually it expires under trump but somehow this is still bidens fault.
Its actually gross how hard you try and undermine the left. Even when you are shown things that directly show ctc existing for more than a year throughout bidens entire term you never reconsider and think oh maybe I was wrong its not the dems who killed this. What would it take for you to blame trump? I bet even if trump used an executive order to remove the CTC you would be there saying "noo biden should have done more. Never vote dems" its almost like you want a right wing government.
Genocide apologist
Yeah, Trump really was the better option for Gaza. Palestinians are so lucky to brave supporters like you fighting the American left and Israeli left on their behalf. Remember its the thought that counts, not the outcomes.
Trump's brief, half-hearted ceasefire was already more than Democrats did.
And I take it from your claim that the Biden admin "benifited everyone" that you don't see Palestinians as human in the first place
Firstly that ceasefire was negotiated by biden admin. Secondly when you're talking about a government benefiting everyone its pretty obviously meaning their own citizens. Now that I known the error of my ways I'll make sure to scream "what about Palestinians" when I hear someone refer to everyone.
Firstly that ceasefire was negotiated by biden admin
Nope, now you're just straight up lying to defend genocide. You're more of a scumbag than any MAGA chud.
Secondly when you’re talking about a government benefiting everyone its pretty obviously meaning their own citizens.
If you're a fascist. Which I'm gathering you are.
Now that I known the error of my ways I’ll make sure to scream “what about Palestinians” when I hear someone refer to everyone.
Shitlibs will always throw a tantrum when you tell them that non-white foreigners are human.
Look at this guy, believing there's actually 2 sides
The most braindead instance is still .world. It's basically reddit in a nutshell
You might not have noticed but 90% of these posts come from the same user
Welcome to .ml, you'll get the jokes now.