Honda and Nissan make it official: Their merger talks are off
Japanese auto giants Honda and Nissan confirmed they've scrapped merger talks announced in December, ending a potential combination that would have created the world's third-largest automaker.
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Honestly thank God.
I was really worried about how this was only going to drag down Honda.
I used to love Nissan. They made several of my dream cars.
Unfortunately it's been quite some time since they made anything very good imo.
Currently have a reputation of meh reliability and meh driving experience.
They don't offer anything to entice someone away from Toyota or Honda.
I hope Nissan can come back but idk how they do that without a serious overhaul of their whole business from the ground up.
Honda needs decent trucks. Nissan can make a decent truck.
Nissan needs decent CVT transmissions. Honda can make decent CVTs.
As an outside observer, I figured just those 2 things would make it worth it.
I can agree with this. Problem is Nissan wanted their CEO.and board members to retain control of the company.
Obviously it would be a bad idea since I'm sure it's best to avoid Nissan to take down Honda with their bad decisions.
Nissan picked their CEO and boardmembers over the entire Japanese and American Nissan workforce.
Nissan picked their CEO and boardmembers over the entire Japanese and American Nissan workforce.
Disgusting. They can rot on their own.
Never buying nissan.
My little brother said the same thing. I think you're both right. Clearly that wasn't enough to push the deal through though.
Look what they did to my Pathfinder!
Fuck Nissan.
IMO the 1st gens are the only true pathfinder. And it's 2nd gen brother with FAS a not so close second.
I hadn't even paid attention to the abomination it's become in the last few years.
I fell in love with the first gens, but by the time I was able to buy one, it was a '96. 4WD and a standard. Terrible gas mileage, but I loved that baby and she always got me where I was going.
But I agree, the first gens were awesome.
I've still got a 96 4wd 5spd Hardbody for when I need a truck to do truck things. Over 300k miles and still going strong.
Slapping the hardbody badge on a 3rd gen frontier isn't as bad as what they did with the pathfinder, but it's still insulting.
Yes but whats the gain to merge the 2 brands just for a modicum improvement?
bring them together when each can contribute something great, not just to limp along together
Honda could have put honda engines in them and let Nissan just do their own styling.
Let Nissan do the styling? No, no, no. They already vomited out the Juke and Cube, we don't need more vehicular abominations out there on the roads...
The Juke is the perfect amount of hideous that it flips the bit back to being great. Even the Cube is the right kind of quirky.
What's wrong with the Cube?
You don't need to merge with Nissan to do that if you're Honda. Just buy out their design team. Much cheaper lol.
Edit: spelling
I agree, I'm just saying that's what I would have seen them doing. See my other comment that the rumor was Japanese government pressured them into it.
Why?
Nissans haven't look good in ~20 years.
If they were pressured into a merger by the Japanese government, what is the path forward? You could a) wind down Nissan or b) solve their major problem by putting Honda engines and transmissions in them. Which also brings their engine r&d cost to 0.