I've heard some schools are reintroducing it now, but that doesn't help those that never learned.
I've heard some schools are reintroducing it now, but that doesn't help those that never learned.
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As in, joined-up writing?
Not quite the same. Some of us were taught stuff like this
That's cursive. It's literally joined up writing.
There are different types of cursive just as there are different types of joined up writing. There may be some overlap. Also, in the US people don't generally use the term joined up writing.
That's literally the cursive alphabet that was taught in American public schools. And most people reading the question would understand that cursive is, in fact, "joined up writing".
the cursive alphabet
Not every school teaches Zaner Bloser, especially these days-- see this for example. And I was told by some British friends over the years that joined up writing has some differences, though I'm not too familiar with the particulars. I thought joined up writing was more like this, though maybe it is just a matter of terminology.
For that second one, I would normally think of it as cursive, except by someone who substituted in print letters where they couldn’t remember
Dude, you're being overly pedantic over a few things I typed while entirely ignoring other parts.
The image you posted was the exact cursive alphabet that was taught in American public schools. It was THE curriculum. I'm not debating the existence of alternate styles of cursive writing. I'm saying that kids in America learned a specific style of "joined up writing" and that style was the image you posted.
When I learned how to write in "cursive" in a south Florida elementary school (early 00s), I learned that "Zaner Bloser" style he posted above. However, I've never heard the term "joined up writing" before today. I think you're both just mistaking regional terms for standardized ones.
When I hear “joined-up writing” I envision his second picture. Cursive would be the first. Cursive is a type of joined-up writing but here in the US when we refer to the writing in the first image just call it cursive. Why would we use a more generic term when we have a more specific term?
You can write regular print letters joined up which is pretty common. Cursive letters however are approximations of letters that don’t look a whole lot like their print counterparts.
The word "cursive" as it colloquially understood in America is the exact alphabet posted in the above image.
If you ask almost any American GenX or older "hey, what is the word for 'joined up writing' ", they will answer "cursive", and they will be specifically thinking of that precise style.
Meanwhile I have two kids who JUST learned to read and they are both able to read cursive. They have not been formally taught this style, and any attempt they'd take at writing it would likely be an illegible mess, but they absolutely can understand it.
Exactly my point, cursive refers to that exact style of joined-up writing. It is not a word which refers to any and all joined-up writing. If you ask almost any American what cursive is, they’ll point to the style as shown in the first image.
If you ask almost any American what “joined-up writing” is, they’ll point to the style in the second image. Because if you were referring to Cursive, you would have said cursive, not joined-up writing.
If you avoid using the very common specific term for something in favor of a less common, more general term, people will assume you’re not referring to the more specific thing, because you’ve gone out of your way to not use the specific term.
American GenXer here - I don't believe I've ever heard the term "joined up" before this thread. Cursive, yes, learned that in elementary school. But not "joined up".
Now I'm wondering what else could be referred to as cursive.
I’m assuming that people are writing joined up print, whereas cursive is a specific flavor codified over the years
Fancy. The lowercase letters are mostly how I would write them, but some of the uppercase ones are a lot more flowery.
