there's plenty of other reasons to not eat shrimp. from the CO2 emissions created from wild caught shrimp to the concerns about mangroves being cut down to make room. (this is not as true as it used to be,) to the use of slave labor.
Not trying to get preachy or anything- I certainly can't claim to be the most environmentally-conscious eater. (I try. but damn steak is good. too. Now I'm craving surf n' turf.)
Changing lifestyle habits can only be effective for an individual's own health. To mask it as a step to contributing towards a healthier environment however is purely wishful thinking. I respect your lifestyle choices as an individual and of course people do need to adopt the principle of 'use only as much as you need' but do keep in mind that the major share of blame in the destruction of the environment lies in the incompetent and overtly greedful exploitation of the environmental resources done in the name of capital generation/profit under Imperialist-Capitalism.
agreed. i'm just stating there are legitimate reasons to avoid shrimp. the reality is a whole hell of a lot of people are going to have to change habits for it to make a significant dent.
also, full disclosure, while I don't like shrimp, i'll still eat it if it comes on my plate. like I said, my eating habits aren't exactly stellar.
Each individual person who stops consuming animals contributes to a rising of cost for those that remain. As costs continue to rise, more people will decide to lower their meat amount. If 25% of people eliminate meat from their diet, we start talking about taking subsidies away from meat producers. If that happens, meat eaters see their supermarket bill possibly triple depending on what products they are buying.
When you say that only health benefits happen from a vegan diet, you are purposefully denying that vegans are doing something you personally are unwilling to do, which is wage economic warfare against people who are profitting off the genocide of the Holocene era's biodiversity.
We are likely going to lose that war, but every person who changes matters in.that fight and I think you would greatly benefit from better educating yourself on the subject.
Subsidized markets aren't bound by rules of supply and demand. Animal AG has production needs to meet requirements to qualify for those subsidies. There's not much room to cut prices and remain in the black.
Instead, the animal AG industry will be producing the "product" at the same level to keep the subsidy qualifications and then the government will allow them to cull a certain number so that prices don't come down.
your predictions might come true, but I am dubious that there are any casual mechanisms at play. for the record, I feel the same way about any argument that depends on supply and demand as an explanatory theory as well, which is why I threw it in this conversation: I wanted to undermine it.
This is a very idealist way of thinking you can help save the environment by waging some imaginary "economic warfare". Veganism is a religious cult and that is how it shall remain. It has no scientific superiority to other dietary forms. If you want to be vegan, you are free to be so but it is not a solution to anything. Only the revolutionary transformation from the status quo of the global Imperialist-Capitalist system will save the environment, not petty selective consumerism.
Except all the studies show veganism is superior, and along with the Mediterranean diet is essentially the only diet recognized by the majority of world's health bodies.
As for your defining veganism as a cult, that is not a view shared by any experts that I am aware of.
It's hilarious watching leftists turn into anti science fascists the moment they have to confront their diet.
Except all the studies show veganism is superior, and along with the Mediterranean diet is essentially the only diet recognized by the majority of world's health bodies.
This alone proves my point of calling Veganism a Religious Cult and nothing more. You have given no evidence to prove that Veganism is inherently superior. I have yet to see any genuine researcher say that Veganism or any other form of diet is superior. Even calling some form of diet superior directly alludes to a failed understanding of what diet and nutrition is.
Your US-centric worldview is also visible through your comment. Although I would not blame you because most Vegans grow up in a privileged environment where they are very alienated from the woes of the Third World from which they get most of their resources from afterall.
It's hilarious watching leftists turn into anti science fascists the moment they have to confront their diet.
Besides the redundancy of the term 'leftist' due to its wide scope which is no longer relevant in serious discourse today unless you live in the French Republic of the late 18th century. This word salad of a statement you have put forward here is only amusing to read and has no other value. If you think me criticizing your own rubbish pseudo-scientific position is anti-science then you still have a lot to research.
On a good day, with a good adversary, I would present more points and detail what diet and nutrition are and why our own self-analysis is essential for physiological matters by having a balanced diet encompassing all nutrients and adding exercise to it instead of adhering to some made up dogmatically constructed "way of life". But pardon me for not bothering more for a cracker.
Veganism began in India thousands of years ago and was introduced to the US largely through the rastafarian community. The two main meat replacements that have been eaten for the last thousand years were invented in China.
Yes, modern conveniences found in.the western world make it easier, but this is a very old movement that white people in the US have largely only engaged in since the 1980s. You are ignoring a lot of stories from different cultures in effort to make your false arguments. Just something to consider.
i'm not denying the existence of anyone and i don't care about their diet. i'm telling you that there were no vegans in india thousands or even hundreds of years ago.
I was not going to reply to your ridiculous responses but I cannot let you off without addressing this disgusting comment.
Firstly, your response is an outstanding example of the logical fallacy of 'Appeal to Tradition'. Alleged existence of Vegan culture and meat substitutes since a long time have no relevance here and do not strengthen your position.
Secondly, claiming ahistorical things with your narrow illiterate worldview is itself Racist. There was no veganism in India thousands of years ago. This so called "Veganism" in Hindu, mostly Upper Caste, culture today has, ironically, a religious cultist foundation. And as a person living in India it is evident to me that you do not understand the Casteist implication of the claim you are making.
The meat replacement in China, which you did not name, but I will assume Tofu was prepared and consumed in China without any veganist fundamentals.
I will reiterate that Veganist Cultist Mentality is a byproduct of Yankee Extraordinary-ism and White Privilege.