Shani Louk, who was kidnapped from the Nova music festival during Hamas' October 7 terrorist attacks, has been confirmed dead, according to Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Yeah, that's not equal at all buddy. The IDF is commiting atrocities. Also, nobody gives a shit about Israeli civilians and millions of us are worrying about the 4th Reich.
I got downvoted and shit on just for saying the videos from 10/7 showed really fucked up shit, including Shani. Some of the crowd on lemmy is pretty fuckin gross tbh, the Fediverse isn't going to pick up with the tankies taking over over every controversial political topic.
I haven't seen the videos (and I don't plan to) because I don't need to see them to know it was some horrendously fucked up shit. Just reading the articles about it was more than enough.
But Israel bombing the shit out of Gaza and blockading food, water, electricity, fuel, etc from entering Gaza is straight up crimes against humanity.
Israel is punishing every single person in the area for the crimes of Hamas.
Hamas can fuck off but I understand why they came about.
Yeah I've made it a point to not to "pick a side" which is what I am seeing people do in most conversations about the topic. I'm atheist and have no stake in either and the whole thing is just a disgusting mess. The problem comes when people justify the "eye for an eye" response that both groups are taking.
The problem comes when people justify the “eye for an eye” response that both groups are taking.
This is the all lives matter take of the middle east. Israel has killed 36x as many civilians as all pro-Palestine groups have killed Israeli civilians.
No, killing innocent civilians is never the answer no matter who has done what. And both groups are doing it. Israel can be a piece of shit for what they have done and are doing. And Hamas can be a piece of shit for what they did too, they are not mutually exclusive.
This whole topic sucks. It's like you can only have one extreme side to take instead of acknowledging fault on both sides. Meanwhile Tankies and Nazis continue to point fingers at each other, defending whichever team suits their current political agenda the most.
Hamas are terrorists that did an atrocity, Israel also is responsible for things escalating to this point, they still have a right to defend themselves, but the way they're doing it is also far from appropriate. If people cannot start to acknowledge everyone's wrongdoings, then I don't see how this area can ever reach stability. Even most politicians / countries seem to be too scared to do anything, to take a proper stance. Meanwhile there's more and more civilians dying over there.