Shani Louk, who was kidnapped from the Nova music festival during Hamas' October 7 terrorist attacks, has been confirmed dead, according to Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Downvotes bc you're antisemitic monsters using Muslims as an excuse to hate Jews. You don't care about any humans if you're downvoting. You're going to burn in hell while you whine "but what about muh IDF"
Not that any death is worth more or less than another, but it is surreal to know that the people killed at the music festival were privileged young people completely removed from the conflict, and most of the people killed in Gaza are poverty stricken children and starving adults.
Yeah clearly anyone who can afford a vacation deserves to be kidnapped raped brutalized and paraded through the streets before being left to die as a hostage over 3 weeks.
But you should try to understand the insane excess these partygoers had compared to the squalor that Gazans have to live in.
It makes sense that with such disparity in qualities of life, those who feel they got the short end of the stick fight back against those who have too much.
This entire comment chain, as usual, is just people getting upset at criticizing excess wealth. Pretty much unless it's a billionaire, you're not allowed to criticize excess wealth.
The closer we get to the root of the problem, the more people we'll find that contribute to it and the less we'll find that are willing to admit it.
It's so hard to fight for the Palestinian people when soulless monsters like you show up to represent the cause. It's becoming harder and harder to figure out who is anti-apartheid, and who wants another Holocaust.
I wonder what the travel logs for Gazans are like, and why that is.
I don't actually spend my time wondering why because we all got a pretty good demonstration from Hamas as to why. Their attack pretty much ensured there won't be a free Gaza for another generation...or two, or three.
If you think what happened to this girl was justified, not only are you broken, but you are no different than the people who support the genocide of Palestinians.
Oh don't get me wrong, I talk about how ridiculously expensive traveling is all the time. Anyone who engages in this sort of behavior has no right to complain about 'not having enough money', yet they routinely do. Lol.
Some people just don't know the difference between needs and wants.
I feel like you are missing the line between fighting for their freedom, and publicly raping innocent concert goers to death a bit, though. I completely understand them lashing out. I will never understand the targets that they chose to lash out at. It's not smart from a strategic standpoint, even.
Look at any colonized people who have made peace on their colonizer’s terms for why they might not want to do that.
Jews were more refugees than colonists and are playing by a much more humane playbook than the colonizers of those other groups did, but let's ignore that for a second. Look at what has happened as a result of refusing to make peace. Is Gaza faring better than most former colonies right now? Your example, Native Americans, may have some issues and may have been screwed out of their ancestral lands but they have full US citizenship, freedom of movement and freedom of return. They aren't being bombed because they aren't hostile and aren't killing civilians.
Your example, Native Americans, may have some issues and may have been screwed out of their ancestral lands but they have full US citizenship, freedom of movement and freedom of return.
How many years did that take?
They aren't being bombed because they aren't hostile and aren't killing civilians.
They were granted citizenship in 1924, how long that was from pacification varies from tribe to tribe. What makes you think it will be a similar timeline in this other conflict? The circumstances seem wildly different.
Blankets you dumb fuck.
There's no need for name-calling. The smallpox blankets were a terrible atrocity, just as many terrible atrocities have occurred in the Israel-Palestine conflict. It didn't result in endless war and belligerence. There is peace between the US and native tribes at present.
Yeah, I worked at an Irish bar for a while and we had a couple guys from Donegal that would go in on drunk college kids about it. Really the only anecdotes I have on the situation, though.
Donegal is a border county, likely to be closer to home. Personally it took me being in Chicago and someone talking about it for it to click with me, I just thought you guys had weird names for things
Israel started the genocide. For that matter, they have a long history of starting fights with their neighbors. Sometimes it works out for them, and sometimes it doesn't, but the common theme is they always blame it on people wanting to genocide the Jews. Only idiots still fall for that shit.
Lucky for them, they have powerful allies that cover for them and drag their asses out of the fire each time. But public opinion is slowly changing, and at some point it's going to tip and Israel is going to pick a fight where nobody comes to their rescue. When that happens, I hope I'm around to appreciate them receiving their just rewards for being truly inhuman monsters.
"For the first time in 1,000 years not a single Jew remains in the Jewish Quarter. Not a single building remains intact. This makes the Jews' return here impossible"
"The operations of calculated destruction were set in motion. I Knew that the Jewish Quarter was densely populated with Jewish populations who caused their fighters a good deal of interference and difficulty. I embarked, therefore on shelling of the quarter with mortars creating harassment and destruction. Only for days after our entry into Jerusalem, the Jewish Quarter become their graveyard. Death and destruction reigned over it. As the down of May 28th was about to break, the Jewish Quarter emerged in convulsive cloud-a cloud of death and agony" -Abdullah el Tell, a commander of the Arab Legion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamization_of_Jerusalem#Islamization_of_Jerusalem_under_Jordanian_rule
This is how the Jews were treated when the shoe was on the other foot, when Jerusalem and the West Bank were annexed by Jordan, (A belligerent fighting for the Palestinians against Israel in 1948,) it was immediately ethnically cleansed:
In 1950 Jordan annexed the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and in 1954 granted Jordanian nationality to its non-Jewish residents who had been Palestinian nationals before 15 May 1948. During the nineteen years of Jordanian rule in the West Bank, a third of the Jewish Quarter's buildings were demolished. According to a complaint Israel made to the United Nations, all but one of the thirty-five Jewish houses of worship in the Old City were destroyed. The synagogues were razed or pillaged and stripped and their interiors used as hen-houses or stables. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Jordan#Jordan_relations_with_Israel
Uh oh. Not this argument. I hate this argument because it never ends. Israel started it. Actually Palestine started it. Actually Israel started it. Actually the Arab League started it. Actually Israel started it. Actually the Ottomans started it. Actually British started it. Actually France started it. Actually Russia started it. So on and so forth--this land is mine, blah blah blah.
It started when all of the muslim nations surrounding Israel declared war on them multiple times over 60 years, and Jewish ethnic cleansing of the holy land was always the main justification. Denying such basic history just makes you look obtuse and/or uneducated.
If you think the west is going to turn its back on Isreal fighting a literal terrorist organization you’re delusional. The only way any of this ends is if Muslims just accept that Isreal is not going anywhere and proper permanent land borders are made. Continuing to fight that just causes endless suffering for everyone involved.
That's funny, because Israel has also invaded Muslim countries on multiple occasions, and even conspired with Western powers to invade their neighbors. Wars which caused controversy in those Western nations, but not towards Israel, because if you criticize Israel you're suddenly a nazi. Despite the fact that Israeli government officials have clearly spoken out on social media many times saying that their goal is the elimination of Arabs and Muslims in Palestine.
I have no sympathy for Israel. Every one of those 1400 dead of theirs took part in a system built to destroy Arabs and take their lands, and every one of them that died is one less oppressor of the Palestinian people. The latest polls show public support in the US for Israel is dropping. One day, the scales will tip, and the cash and weapon flow to those murderers will stop. And then all the sins of Israel will come back to haunt them.
Every one of those 1400 dead of theirs took part in a system built to destroy Arabs and take their lands
It's pretty fucking wild that your brain can hold that thought...that 1400 Israelis were somehow complicit in their own murder...and also the thought that the Gazans are nothing but sweet, innocent victims without any agency.
You’re straight up delusional if you think Isreal is going to be defeated at this point, hell look at the Yom Kippur war being the biggest underdog ass kicking in modern history. You’re even more so if you think the west is increasing sympathy for Radical Muslims.
If you think terrorism is going to defeat Israel it’s just going to result in Palestine ceasing to exist.