It’s an Absolutely Terrifying Night in Gaza Right Now
It’s an Absolutely Terrifying Night in Gaza Right Now
Israel’s military began a heavy aerial bombardment of Gaza after nightfall on Friday and announced that it is “expanding” its ground operations into the territory—but did not declare a full-scale ground invasion that has been expected for weeks.Internet and phone service in Gaza has been mostly, if ...
Some people, communicating via satellite phones, have described the attack as the “heaviest bombardment yet,” according to independent journalist Sharif Kouddous.
“People can’t call ambulances or civil defense. We are being bombed in an unprecedented manner,” said an unidentified journalist at a Gaza hospital, according to a translation by The Nation’s Palestinian correspondent, Mohammed El-Kurd. “The sky around us just lights up [with explosions], and no one knows what’s going on.”
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The world is watching. No justice, no peace.
the world has never truly been at peace though - maybe prior to the evolution of bacteria, but I doubt it.
The natural world is chaotic and violent, so that means we as thinking humans who know what it is to suffer pain and the loss of loved ones, must not only add to that violence and chaos but also devise new, sophisticated ways of inflicting suffering. But also don't forget that we're better and more civilized than animals. /s
Until I experienced violence myself, I was unwilling to process the logic or think it through. Then I lived a portion of my life where I was in physical danger from very bad people, and I was forced to think it through.
Being prepared to retaliate is the most effective defense against those who are not sympathetic to your needs, whom you cannot avoid. It’s why animals demo their weapons when cornered. It’s why plants “waste” energy producing toxins that harm would-be eaters.
Every organism has weapons, and evolution’s been optimizing for over a billion years. Like, a little flap of skin no longer used is selected out over the course of a million years because it provides a disadvantage against those not wasting the energy to grow the little flap of skin. But nature spends energy putting claws on kittens. Why?
It’s logical; it’s just ugly and unpleasant to acknowledge. The only time people acknowledge it is when their circumstances change such that not acknowledging it is worse. ie when they are faced with the necessity of dealing with violence.
Yes, bombing children is simply the way the world works. Nothing we can do to stop genocide I guess. /s
Based on known human history, the last time Humans stopped a genocide... was when we ate the last Neanderthal.
Oh thank god it is so good to see someone who understands.
Cease-fire is the best we’ve got. MAD is why small animals have the instinct to fight bigger animals. It’s why pufferfish exist. Nature, unconsciously, groks deterrence and programs it into 100% of her evolved organisms.
That's also why you can stand up to a bear and yell at it and the bear will run away, even though it could easily kill you... It doesn't want to get in a fight.
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The world is watching justice happen right now.
This speaks to your warped sense of what justice really is, and I pity those around you for how that must affect them as you go through life bleeding your vindictiveness onto others.
The problem with those who are both shameless and arrogant is that they lack the self-awareness and empathy to put themselves in the shoes of others. May the universe show you the same level of mercy that you seem inclined to grant to others...
If a dog bit a person and that person went to the pound and just kicked all the dogs, is sort of what you're cheering for
That dog bit and killed the person's family. Fix that sentence.
Okay, and that changes what in this example...?
Still doesn't make going to the pound the right thing to do???
So what? Stay silent and let the dogs come back to kill more?
Innocents being killed is not justice, it's genocide.
What exactly is justice in context of a war? And do you realize that absolute justice for all sides means that the war will never end?
I'd love to hear what you think justice is dumdum.
Probably thinks justice only means retribution.
I honestly don’t care what assumptions you make about me.
This is the guy that eats the onion! The freak show!
That's good.
There can’t be „justice“ for things from the past. Everyone has to heal and make amends. You have to look into the future, so both sides learn to coexist.
Worked for France and Germany and Worked for the IRA and the UK. Conflicts that lasted centuries (France/Germany) and decades (IRA/UK) were able to get resolved.
So you also agree that Israel should immediately cease the siege of Gaza and look toward a diplomatic solution that aims to heal both parties loss. Perhaps a brokered peace and lasting agreement by a neutral 3rd party to finally solve all disputes? I think that's a wonderful idea.
While Hamas ceases fire and releases all hostages unconditionally at the same time of course. sounds like a splendid idea.
I believe that's on the table
Speaking at the United Nations, Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said that Hamas is ready to release hostages on the condition that 6,000 Palestinians, who are currently in Israeli jails, are released as well.
"According to our negotiations, Hamas is ready to release civilian prisoners. On the other hand, the world should support the release of 6,000 Palestinians held in Israeli prisons," he told a meeting of the 193-member General Assembly on the Middle East on Thursday.Probably not the preferred outcome, but it stops the killing now
That’s not an unconditional release of the hostages - so it’s very unlikely to happen.
There can’t be „justice“ for things from the past. Everyone has to heal and make amends. You have to look into the future, so both sides learn to coexist.
Your statement doesn't jive then.
You make exaggerated statements, by driving arguments to their most extreme (full amends and healing has to happen INSTANTLY/NOW), to pretend that an argument is invalid.
The healing and making amends is a process that will take years, if not a decade.
Israel will not give in to Hamas demands that stemmed from the October 7 terror attack. This would show EVERY Terror Organization that terror against civilians indeed pays very well.
Like that hasn't been tried before.
Your right, better to just keep bombing. I meant it more as the neutral party decides but both sides agree up front to abide by the terms of the agreement and have no say in how that neutral party decides. Perhaps protection guarantees are made and loss of claims imposed on any further hostilities?
The UNIFIL (neutral peace keeping force) exists in Lebanon since 1978 - and didn't prevent Hezbollah from becoming the most capable non-government actor in the region, which launches AT missiles on Israeli northern border every single day. Tell us more about neutral parties...
Pack it up everyone. Anything that hasn't gone right before in the past, means nothing, no matter how different, could ever succeed in the future. Not like there's any ethnic cleansing or genocides to look back on. Better get going with this totally original "Gaza Remodel"
Just saying that the suggestion for third party peace keeping force is a bit idealistic, and doesn't have a good track record. So there has to be another way.
Who do you suggest as a "neutral body"?
If it's a single country? Maybe Iceland just off the top of the head? I feel like they would do their best to listen to everyone and go over all the data.
Maybe some sort of neutral council that expressly uses smaller, non dominate countries, that could vote in secrecy and be protected from the wishes of the international super powers.
You seem to not fully understand the situation if you think both parties will accept your solution
You say this like there's never been an attempt at resolving the apartheid state of Israel. There have been many attempts at diplomatic solutions. For the last 30 years, Netanyahu himself has done everything he can to prevent any kind of diplomatic solution from ever happening.
You're right, I guess this is just the genocide we had to have.
/s
If you dont want genocided don’t try and genocide your neighbor. Pretty simple concept really
It is errors in justice that make wars grow.
An excellent example of an error in justice is killing the people next to the people who attacked you. This conflict continues because there’s no clean line connecting an attacker to the retaliation back against that attacker.
What exactly is justice in context of a war?
Whoever wins.
The war will end when there are no sides left.
Which is... either when everyone decides to put their differences aside... or when the last man standing finally dies, all tales get forgotten, and all written records destroyed, so nobody can ever pick any of the sides again. They'll likely pick a different set of sides again, but that will be a different war 🤷