Did Bernie Sanders ruin the possibility for mass movements to manifest in the near future?
Did Bernie Sanders ruin the possibility for mass movements to manifest in the near future?
Or was it Biden's victory and liberal's exhaustion with politics in a Trump-era world?
I can't help but wonder if the presence of a Democrat in the presidency just sort of pacifies liberal, left, and radical mass movements and mobilization.
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that seems silly, like paint me an alternate timeline. theres no Bernie and the what? half of us wouldn't be here. there is no "left" in america what other thing do you think would have filled that place? a labor movement? definitely not the current union boom can be directly traced back to Bernie and the dsa. the black lives matter movement never had revolutionary potential. you will never have another anti war movement in america, not one capable off effecting anything. fucking liberal "feminist" wont do anything but take selfies in pussy hats. frankly most feminist in this country aren't feminist their racist murderous girlboss imperialist, including black women. not having Bernie wouldn't have made any of this better. also the idea that most bernie suporter were nascent socialist seems silly, did you meet them? they are liberals who want healthcare. they want "scandanavian" stuff, are scandanavians any closer to being communist than us?
I thought we all were against great man history.
We are. Bernie running for president, and the galvanizing effect he had, were only possible by way of the material conditions of American capitalism in 2016-2020, and the social movements like Occupy, which preceded him.
That doesn't make him not important.
i agree that he was important, but important and "ruining the possibility of mass movements" is a huge jump.
Oh, that I agree with. I disagree with OP that Bernie specifically "Ruined the possibility of mass movements". We're just in a liberal malaise where they've all gone back to brunch, while the world is still burning.
That Said, petite bourgois liberals are hardly the core of many social movements. We ought to be looking to the colonized and oppressed people's in this country to take us anywhere.
agreed agreed, although i do think America specifically will be dragged kicking and screaming into the future.
Not in 2019 and early 2020, I was there I saw it happen EVERYONE went in for Bernie, he became the nexus of the American left, for over a year all conversations led back to him
Most of the lefties who went full communism in 2017 and 2018 drank that electoral seltzer, nobody wanted to hear any doomerism on the subject
Then March 2020 hit and suddenly blazing-eyed Lenins were everywhere
Where did that bring you?
spoiler
Back to me