"If you didn't want fascism you should have voted!"

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Again, I'm not telling you whether or not I went through with it. You're assuming that I didn't vote and getting very angry at me instead of at the people who had actual power to do something and chose not to rock the boat.
Divisive rhetoric like playing the blame game is not productive and serves only to help the fascists waste our time. Being mad at people isn't going to convince them that they voted wrong, it only cements the opinion that you can't be reasoned with.
What we need now is Truth and Reconciliation, and to get that we have to have power, and to get that we have to have organization. Take all that disparate, individual rage and point it in a useful direction. Go join a union. If there isn't one at your workplace, start it.
- Im Not mad at you if you voted. Im pointing out excusing nonvoters never works, as evidenced.
  Maybe if nonvoters ever came out we could've given Democrats more than the thinnest of majorities twice in a few decades and had more progress.
  Why is that so hard to agree with? Again, if progressivism is so popular then why can't people turn out and overtake the Democrat party?
  I am doing something. Im fighting against this idea it's all Democrats fault when they were barely given any power to begin with and no one cared to vote in primaries for Anyone better.
  That's a failure of nonvoters, period. Stop with the excuses so that no one ever feels THEY are responsible for all this horseshit we see today. THAT is counterproductive.
  
  Im pointing out excusing nonvoters never works, as evidenced.
  I'm not asking you to excuse them, I'm asking you to stop casting blame to try and feel better about this sorry situation we're in. Doing something to help someone who's hurting right now will make you feel much better
  Maybe if nonvoters ever came out
  "If only" is the trap of grief. Denial, anger, and bargaining all rolled into one. We're all grieving for the future we could have had, and you deserve the chance to grieve in your own way, but lashing out won't lessen your own pain.
  Why is that so hard to agree with?
  Because it's an impossible demand that tries to blame a hundred million people for failing to overcome all the various impediments to voting. You might as well blame the moon for all the good that will do.
  if progressivism is so popular then why can't people turn out and overtake the Democrat party?
  Because the Democrat party is more conservative than it is progressive, but the opportunity to change that is right now.
  I am doing something. Im fighting against this idea it's all Democrats fault when they were barely given any power to begin with and no one cared to vote in primaries for Anyone better.
  What primary? The Democrats didn't hold one this election...
  You aren't fighting an idea. Ideas can't be fought, we either hold on to them or we abandon them. If you want people to abandon the idea that it was the Democrats' fault then you're going to need more than just blame, you're going to need evidence so overwhelming it can blot out people's personal feelings on the matter and a culprit with meaningful culpability.
  Stop with the excuses so that no one ever feels THEY are responsible for all this horseshit we see today.
  You're doing that right now, making excuses for your own powerlessness by casting blame. I had 10 years to come to terms with what you're feeling today (including a six month prepper phase before I reached the last phase of acceptance), so trust me when I say you won't feel any better about it until you get away from your screens, get out of your bubble, and go make a difference in someone else's life. Everyone else who's suffering right now feels alone and helpless, even the smallest gesture of solidarity might be the boost they need to pay your kindness forward tenfold.
  You have far more power than you know. Don't let the horrors lull you into despair. Let them radicalize you into being the change you want to see in the world.
  
  Blah blah blah- it's the Democrats, not the people who never turn out. And I mean ANY PRIMARY. Turns out there were PLENTY of people to vote for in the primary- just not the incumbent president. If any of those people were voted in maybe the Dems would have power to stop this insanity.
  That is all your stuff boils down to though. It's not the PEOPLE'S fault. It's always "those guys over there." Good luck with forever excusing apathy and see how far it gets you. I'm sure any day now it'll turn around..
  You guys are forever waiting for someone else to do something for you (ie. the Democrats.) It's like training a dog- YOU have to put the work in. And by you I mean all the nonvoters. But hey- don't listen to evidence that elections matter. Not like we had the ACA while imperfect that drastically improved fortunes for millions. But hey- everyone tuned right back out, didn't show up to do anything to give Obama and co. more than a few months of a majority and thus we're where we're at now. Again- people didn't show up.
  But yeah- keep excusing them for not getting their pretty pony and being ok with them sitting out. It's not their fault of course that they don't vote in primaries. It's because the party doesn't somehow know how to capture every single little thing that 340 million people across a vast nation want. It's the Democrats fault they don't know what people want when people don't take the sum total of an hour each year to go vote and let them know.
  I'm not acting like there aren't impediments to voting like voter suppression, etc. I'm just not excusing people from doing it anyway. They can- they choose not to. It's not like voter suppression is responsible for 90 MILLION people not voting. Come off it already.
  Anyway, have a good one.
  
  People like you are why the Democrats don't even bother trying, too wrapped up in their own sense of self-righteousness to do anything that might shift the status quo:
  First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
  I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.
  -"Letter from Birmingham Jail", MLK Jr. 1963.
  
  People like you are the reason we're here- excusing all inaction. Great job.
  
  You're still at this? Pathetic.
  And who is punishing someone? I'm asking you to simply assign some blame to those responsible- nonvoters.
  If that is "punishing" someone, then you yourself are "punishing" Democrats for their failure to garner more votes.
  So moronic.
  
  You're still at this? Pathetic.
  I came across an image that reminded me of our conversation and figured you might benefit from its wisdom.
  And who is punishing someone? I'm asking you to simply assign some blame to those responsible- nonvoters.
  The only point of blame is to demand punishment. That's what you're asking for.
  If that is "punishing" someone, then you yourself are "punishing" Democrats for their failure to garner more votes.
  And they have already punished themselves, as evidenced by the fact that they don't hold the presidency right now.
  So moronic.
  
  Thanks for wasting mine and yours time. Blocked.
  
  I'm literally here telling you to stop playing the blame game and go do something, and you're getting mad at a random stranger on the internet.
  Physician, heal thyself.
  
  It's funny watching BlueMAGA trying to vacillate between
  if progressivism is so popular then why can’t people turn out
  And
  Im fighting against this idea it’s all Democrats fault when they were barely given any power to begin with

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