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If you look at Germany, you see a country which has one of the highest CO2 emission per capita in Europe.
Completely agree on the Russian corruption that helped closing the nuclear power plants and slowed down deployment of renewable. In the meantime they're literally scraping the ground and razing towns to get more lignite to compensate for the closure of their plants. On a totally unrelated note, they're also buying large amount of nuclear sourced electricity from France. Their carbon intensity even increased two years in a row. (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1290224/carbon-intensity-power-sector-germany/)
On a totally unrelated note, Germany is net exporting electricity to France every year for decades. This is including this year. The other commentor actually posted a link showing that.
Then I have to ask which towns have been destroyed in Germany for lignite in the last couple years. I know of some villages, but towns are much larger then that.
That's just playing on words mate, villages or towns it doesn't matter, they expropriated people to gnaw at the ground to power their shitty power grid. You can see the mines from space. They release three times as much co2 as France per GW/H (https://energycentral.com/c/um/two-unequal-energy-systems-france-and-germany-comparison). They also tried to block the recognition of nuclear as a green energy in Europe, all the while trying to push that label for natural gas. That's fucking bonkers given the state of the world right now.
This debate highlights my point in my first comment. We're arguing about nuclear be renewables, instead of nuclear/renewables Vs fossil fuels.
Nope, that debate is necessary. If it is smarter to invest into nuclear then that has to happen, otherwise we need to invest into renewables. Obviously you have to make a systems comparison and well France does do a better job then Germany in that case right now. It is going to be intressting to see what will happen in the coming years as Germany actually starts to run into the storage problem renewbles pose and what ends up being actually cheaper.
The green energy label for gas power plants can only be given in the EU, if they are converted to an emissions free gas by 2035. Basicly the idea is to use hydrogen in the massive gas storage sites, to solve the problem of prolonged periods of no wind and sunshine in winter. It is not quite as bonkers, but lets see what actually happens in the coming years.
2020 was a particullarily low year in terms of electricity consumption and an amazing year in terms of weather for renewables. All of that while a conservative government brought renewable built up to a crawl. Last year included a massive increase of coal emissions, due to exporting electricity to France, due to an incredible failure to keep their nuclear plants running properly and well having gas problems due to the Russia situation. The increase in exports and lower natural gas power plant consumption actually match fairly well the increase in coal electricity production.
If you zoom out a bit you see a massive decrease of coal power consumption and falling emissions. That is pretty much the renewables roll out right there. one thing, which is really important to say is that installations of new wind trubines and solar has been brought to a crawl and well when you shut down npps and do not replace them with renewables, you get what happend in the last couple years and weather starts to actually matter.
Greens and german people in 2000s: Let's build renewables and then shut down the nuclear fleet because it's cheaper than the maintenance we'd have to start now.
Literal Gazprom employee and "Close friend of Putin" together: Let's cancel that and buy gas instead, and also shut down the nuclear plants early.
Emissions: Go down almost monotonically.
Coal use: Goes down almost monotonically.
Russia shills, oil shills and nukebros: How could the greens make emissions go up with their renewables! Better cancel renewables like the Gazprom employee tried to do!
Your chart shows that Germany has exported more electricity to France, then it imported from France and that for the last decade and icnluding this year. Obviously not large amounts just 0.5 - 3%.
Your reply highlights the point from my first comment. We're arguing over nuclear Vs renewables instead of trying to have them work hand in hand against fossil fuels. I never talked about cancelling and ripping out renewables for nuclear, juste building them side by side and using as much renewables as possible and falling back to nuclear when necessary.
You're presupposing the "necessary" part without evidence when there's not even a credible case for "helpful" or even "possible".
You're also pretending any reactor under construction or pre-construction doesn't get used to delay other projects. Just the grid capacity it takes up without using it is a massive emissions source becauseit delays prpjects that could go on this year rather tham 2040.
You're also repeatedly making false anti-renewable arguments which are part of a fossil fuel propaganda campaign. So it's very obvious you're lying about the side by side part.
I note also you have abandoned your lie completely rather than acknowledging it after it was dismantled and moved to a new piece of bullshit, weird how that keeps happening.
The gish gallop about how terrible energywende was for one.
The tired lie about how geographically constrained pumped hydro is (but apparently fresh water for cooling is infinite).
The whole stationary storage is impossible schtick (along witb all the other options, battery grid storage is already at double the scale new nuclear achieved in the 80s).
There's also the bit where you pretend french uranium all comes from ranger and cigar lake (and milling and conversion are done by the UF6 fairy) rather than filthy coal and diesel powered low grade mines in niger and central asia to smugly quote inaccurate CO2 numbers as if that made a plan that was never followed invalid.
Basically just an unending hose of shellenberger bullshit.
Please keep it constructive (see instance rules). I agree that these are all tired and long dis-proven talking points of the nuclear lobby, but this lobby was very successful in gaslighting many French like @BestBouclettes@jlai.lu and your style of argumentation is just going to make them defensive.
You have a point I guess. I find it difficult to consider the possibility of good faith when they roll out the "the greens ruined energywende and committed to gas" dogwhistle, but there is a possibility.
The transition for Germany is catastrophic (expected end of coal by 2038) but that doesn't mean renewables are bad. Maybe I'm not aware of new ways to retain water high enough for it to generate energy falling down. By experience I know Luxembourg has one high on a hill, I don't think it would be doable in a country like the Netherlands let's say, it sounds pretty constrained to me.
I'm just done arguing with you, you're just being dishonest and extrapolating my views. Let's agree to disagree.
Amsterdam already has massive amounts of interconnect to germany, uk and norway. But this is just more "if there's a single spot where a particular technology isn't useful, it can't be used anywhere" bullshit.
There's no "agree to disagree" here. You keep rolling out far-right talking points and are now crying victim when your lies aren't accepted as fact.
Give the slightest bit of respect to the idea of truth and people will respect you.