4d ago

So, is the USA screwed?

You know, DOGE, fascist president and corporations dictating what people can do, institutions being ruined, laws being ignored. Is there any way out of that or is it over? Is the USA done?

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In the short term, yes.
If trump remains in office after this term, absolutely yes.
If we get a different admin - not just another republicrat trump clone - they’re going to have to spend an inordinate amount of time fixing all of trump’s fuckups. One of which should be restricting any wannabe monarch’s ability to rule by decree in the US. So yeah, we’re fucked, and we’re gonna have to spend a lot of effort getting unfucked, digging ourselves out of an oligarchy hole, instead of moving forward from a continually advancing starting point.
E: allies are already turning away from us, politically and economically. They’ll form new alliances and relationships that the US doesn’t get to be a part of, or at least won’t get a leading position in. Same with things like soft power from international aid. China will step in, maybe the EU or even Russia. We lose the goodwill, stability, and any economic “ins” we could have achieved with that soft power. We’re fucked in lots of ways.
- During my lifetime, the view people have of the US has completely changed.
  It used to be "When I grow up, I want to move there." and "Oh, you went to the US on vacation? AWESOME".
  Now it's "Why the fuck would you go there, are you stupid?"
  
  Agreed on all counts.
- We lose the goodwill
  Gone. It's gone. I'm your neighbor. There's no more goodwill. It's been completely replaced with desire to see your hubris teach a collective lesson, and a process of internal reflection on how we can not end up like you.
  
  a process of internal reflection on how we can not end up like you.
  Better focus on that really hard, because the rise of far-right parties around the world shows a lot of people are heading in the same direction. Absolutely condemn us, but watch your own back yards as well.
  
  You're 100% correct. My unscientific polling suggests to me that 8/10 Canadians thought Elon was a force for good about a year ago.
  We also had a cadre of MAGA north sticking flags on their cars, honking nonstop, shitting in the streets, and blocking the capital and the border when we had COVID restrictions in place. Today, zero percent of them would have a problem being the 51st state, for all their bleating about it being about them protecting "my freedoms" for me. I'm proud to see our flag being displayed this time though, because I'm not dubious about the motivation, but this is no time to stop being vigilant about what little democracy we have left.
  
  My country looked up to the US as a charismatic winner with a big ego and an anger problem, who turned full coked up psychopath now. I listened to the Fall of Civilizations-Podcast a lot and this feels like one. It's scary to watch and I feel sorry for all the good people living in this mess. But I agree, there is no sympathy left. Let the raging insanity humble the evil empire.
  
  Is your country Germany? Please don't repeat our mistakes AND the mistakes of your past! The AfD gaining ground is very worrisome.
  
  We're kin. Fall of civ is my dystopian lullaby. I can hear that piano refrain, but it's about us now.
  
  I read an interview with the guy, he said that there are only a few fallen civilizations left to talk about and that he wants to end his podcast with an episode about us and our (first time ever) global civilization. Looking forward to that.
  On the other hand, I read and listened to Kim Stanley Robinson a lot. In this podcast, he explains why he doesn't want to write dystopian novels, that they comfortably trap our mind. That we need utopian stories to not give up and let them™ win. I think he has a point.
  
  Hope you effectively learn that lesson. I don’t blame any country for turning away from the US. Stupid people electing destructive narcissists and doing absolutely nothing to prevent it.
  
  3 generations of people 'voting according to their pocketbooks' makes an easily controlled monoculture.
  
  Their pocketbooks were morons for three generations, too.
- Yeah no, this will be long term
  First trump term, him fucking over all allies is something the allies could forgive. Second time, not so much. Allies now know they can't rely on the US to be a trustworthy ally.
  Trump already destroyed all soft power, he wants to reduce military spending by 50% too, so hard power will be down the drain as well.
  Then he's destroying the economy, he increased highcorruption like there is no tomorrow, he is destroying education and he is destroying all oversight on companies
  He's working hard on destroying democratic institutions too so forget fair elections, as if the US ever had any.
  IMHO, the US will never recover from trump, and that is what it deserves. It always had the great chance to be truely great but it fucked itself around every corner trying to please the rich
  
  he wants to reduce military spending by 50% too, so hard power will be down the drain as well.
  You say this like it's a bad thing
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mentally_ill_monarchs
  Trump is the first very televised idiot for this list... Tho the people are even less sane for REelecting him
  
  It's some very good news if he's indeed dramatically downsizing the military. Gives Canada and Mexico a fighting chance! Will Canada be USA's next Vietnam experience?
  
  Depends how that happens. I'ld see them sell off lots of high tech gear to highest bidding crazy people for a quick cash grab. Same amount of weapons, less controlled.
  
  Canadian Moose Cavalry, anyone?

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