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Proton Mail Says It’s “Politically Neutral” While Praising Republican Party

theintercept.com Proton Mail Says It’s “Politically Neutral” While Praising Republican Party

The “privacy-first” company surprised its user base when CEO Andy Yen lauded Trump on social media.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/30934764

The “privacy-first” company surprised its user base when CEO Andy Yen lauded Trump on social media.

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I've been looking in to degoogling and was considering Protonmail before this. Does anybody know of a good alternative? Espeically one that lets you have multiple email addresses?
- I bit the bullet this month & bought a domain so I can assign mail handling and change providers without changing my email address. Currently using https://purelymail.com/ because they're $10/year for as many addresses & domains as you want "within reason." It's apparently just one guy with some AWS instances, but it was very straightforward to set up.
  
  I was dumb enough to walk away from that approach about 10 years ago. Ugh. But you've convinced me. The annual cost of a domain is lunch money for a week. The freedom it provides in this scenario is well worth it.
  
  There's a lot of domains you can get for the price of a single coffee, if you don't insist on it being cute, readable, or one of the legacy TLDs. Between purelymail and a .top domain, it's $15/year.
  
  +1 for purelymail.
  I've had my personal domain on gmail and most recently proton. Proton got too pricy when I wanted to add another couple of domains. After some research I landed on purelymail, and it's been smooth sailing to set up and use.
  
  The same applies to what I commented about Mxroute - Purelymail doesn't cater to users who require end-to-end encryption, advanced privacy features, or those who need built-in security measures beyond standard email protocols, as it's primarily focused on reliable email delivery and hosting rather than security-first communication.
  Tuta would be a viable alternative to Proton.
  
  Yeah, I considered E2EE. Even set up PGP keys in Thunderbird and installed https///mailvelope.com . For E2EE to really be viable, your correspondents have to comply, and none of the people I email with have any interest. I even email with someone on proton, and they always reply to me in the clear.
  
  I mean, as far as I'm concerned, if not for all the websites that ask for email to register, I wouldn't be using it. No personal comms go via email.
  
  What do you mean by "I bought a domain"? Is the domain has been rented or there is someone who sells domain for life and heritage?
- If you only care about email (and calendar, I guess) Tuta is a pretty good choice. I've been using it for years and had only one problem very early on. Additional aliases are only available with the paid plan (€3 a month) however, same as Proton I believe.
  
  Yup.
  Tuta works well for me for the past year or so, so I recently switched to their annual plan. I used Proton for a couple years (paid plan) and preferred it, but they raised the price so I bailed. The €3 plan from Tuta is more than enough for me.
  
  I'm still on a legacy plan (which still feels like a really good deal despite some small concessions compared to the new plans) but yeah, even with the new prices it's definitely worth it.
  Also, while not strictly email focused but they have a blog with articles about various privacy related topics and news - it's a pretty neat source of info, especially for those less knowledgeable about this stuff.
- I have tuta, bitwarden, firefox relay, and libreoffice, seems to work decently. I am also considering getting a mullvald vpn, but not sure how well it works with torrenting, since they no longer support port-forward.
  
  Using Mullvad, I stay connected to it 24/7. I've no problems with torrenting. It costs 5€/month. Maybe try it out to see if it'll suit you as well.
  
  same, my torrent container is connected to Mullvad and works great.
  
  I have my qbittorrent container set up the same way, no issues. Only minor inconvenience I have now is having to manually renew my subscription every month because they stopped storing payment information (good!).
  
  Does bitwarden have a browser extension for firefox?
  
  Yes they do
  
  Yes. This is also something you could have googled in the time it took to comment.
  
  Yeah true, but then other people who are thinking about making the switch would also have to ask that question or Google. Plus sometimes the browser extensions are exist but are shit. The human recommendation holds more weight.
  I'm coping hard with that response
- I have pretty good experience with Tutanota an bitwarden as the most direct alternatives
  Tutanota apps lack a bit of polish but the UI looks reasonably nice and gets the job done. Bitwarden has treated me pretty well.
- Mailbox.org
- It's not the most practical thing in the universe, but I have a small VPS that I host my email on for myself and a couple others (5 addresses in total). It's a bit of a pain to set up, but once it's working, it is really nice to have that kind of control.
  
  There are dozens of us!
  I think email gets a bad rap for difficulty of hosting. So long as you get your DMARC, DKIM, RDNS, SPF, etc right, it's reasonably forgiving. Need to take server down for maintenance? No worries- any mail that couldn't be delivered will be resent in a few minutes/hours/days.
  Harder than hosting a simple website? Yes. Rocket surgery? No.
- I've heard https://mailbox.org/en/ is good.
  
  Been using it a few years and I'm happy. Best upgrade coming from google is that the calendar actually works with thunderbird.
- After digging around, I'm going to try Tuta for email/calendar and Mullvad for VPN. Tuta's €3 plan lets you have 15 additional addresses and 3 custom domains.
  Anyone using a good proton drive alternative?
  
  Anyone using a good proton drive alternative?
  I run Synology NAS at home and I love it, but it was expensive to set up.
  Other extreme is Syncthing for completely free device sync, but no backup beyond your devices and both devices must be online to sync.
  I self-hosted Nextcloud on cloudamo with Cryptomator for e2ee but I can't really recommend it. Nextcloud is pain to administer and tends to be buggy.
- im using a nextcloud host called murena. you could probably use an equally good one or self host, but i found the free next cloud host sign up tool too buggy to use.
  main draw of next cloud for me is you can use features like third party clients and calendar sharing without having to manually prepare for account downgrade if you want a lower tier, and in fact the only difference between tiers is storage
  note that im not clear how good their encryption is, it seems not to be fully end to end encrypted

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