US: Muslim groups urge voters to back Jill Stein, Cornel West or other pro-Palestine candidates
US: Muslim groups urge voters to back Jill Stein, Cornel West or other pro-Palestine candidates
While only a minor voting bloc, Muslims say endorsements shows their anger over bipartisan support for Israel could sway the election
"After extensive consultation, discussion, and deliberation, the American Muslim 2024 Election Task Force has decided to encourage American Muslims to vote for any presidential candidate of their choosing who supports a permanent ceasefire in Gaza and a US arms embargo on the Israeli government, such as candidates Dr Jill Stein, Dr Cornel West or Chase Oliver," read the statement, obtained by Middle East Eye.
The statement was written by the American Muslim 2024 Election Task Force, an umbrella group formed this year that consists of a number of prominent Muslim organisations including the political arms of Americans for Justice in Palestine (AJP), Cair, and the US Council of Muslim Organizations.
"We cannot endorse Vice President Kamala Harris’ candidacy because of her refusal to even consider imposing the arms embargo on the Israeli government required by US laws and her failure to promise any other changes whatsoever to President Biden's failed policy of steadfast financial, diplomatic and military support for Israel's genocide in Gaza," the statement read.
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No, linkerbaan isn't a russian bot, linkerbaan is a pro-trump republican human being.
They are equally pathetic statements. You can't reconcile the idea of someone having a position to your left, so they must secretly be to your right!
I'm afraid you're factually incorrect. In another thread I said to linkerbaan that they were a trump supporter pretending to be pro-Palestine just to try to persuade democrats not to vote for the least genocidal option they can possibly get for president of the USA. Linkerbaan responded simply with one word:
Cope.
You don't accept that rightwingers might be pretending to be leftwingers just to bring about a more rightwing future and might be lying to you about their support for Gaza? That's a little naive, I think. Have you looked into project 2025 at all?
You'll notice I also said you're just coping. I agree with Linkerbaan's actual opinion and you can stick to your conspiracy theories. It's not like they're going to dox themselves to prove such a ridiculously frivolous accusation wrong.
I agree with Linkerbaan’s actual opinion
Oh, you support trump at the expense of Gaza too. Got it. I wasted my time with you.
Republicans: see evidence that the world isn't as they claim. Deny it and carry on.
You have no evidence! The one time you purported to present evidence, it was just someone denying and mocking you evidence-less claims! Your political "advocacy" is a joke if you have no way to interface with contrary opinions except to pigeonhole them into one specific opinion, even if it requires harebrained conspiracy theories!
You do more to discredit the democrats than Linkerbaan does. Are you a Republican asset?
"Cope." isn't a denial, it's an admission. Have you ne reading comprehension?
He wasn't saying "Yes, that is correct and you can cope about it," he was saying "You're making things up to cope about what I'm saying". Imagining in your pathetic fantasy that he was a Republican Operative and you're the Ace Detective Sherlock who discovered this, why the fuck would he blow his own cover on the same forum he was agitating on and then continue agitating on the same platform under his blown cover? You are genuinely delusional and I don't want to be ableist, so we should probably stop talking because only a doctor is qualified to engage with you on these grandiose flights of fancy where you are engaging in internet forum spy battles against the GOP.
GarbageShootAlt2: "I don't want to be ableist" - jokes about mental illness because there's little actual content in the argument
He wasn’t saying “Yes, that is correct and you can cope about it,” he was saying “You’re making things up to cope about what I’m saying”.
Again with the poor reading comprehension.
why the fuck would he blow his own cover
His reply no longer shows up when I click to expand the comment, but it's still in my read messages.
You're spending a lot of time and effort refusing to believe that linkerbaan is a pro trump republican. Why is it so hard for you to accept?
Try getting linkerbaan to criticise trump. You'll find the conversation quickly turns to how awful Harris is.
I don't think you understand; I'm not joking. If you legitimately see such ridiculous conspiracies that easily and then fervently hold on to them, accusing the people who disagree with you of being in on it, you should see a psychiatrist (or tell the current one about this dynamic). I don't know what it is or what more you should do about it, that's for a professional to figure out. Obviously I don't think you'll listen to me on that, I'm just trying to convey my earnestness.
I feel more comfortable making fun of people who -- while sometimes probably mentally ill the same degree that I am -- are able to talk about a common reality. Making fun of foolishness is enjoyable, making fun of illness is cruel.
Try getting linkerbaan to criticise trump. You’ll find the conversation quickly turns to how awful Harris is.
This part I'll touch on because it's a common misconception among liberals like yourself, especially on .world. We communists don't spend an especially large portion of our time criticizing Trump because what is wrong with Trump is obvious, not because we secretly like him. We do still criticize him though and have threads on a daily basis (headlines allowing) talking about what a dumb chauvinist he is. This account is an alt for my Hexbear account, so I can mainly speak to that one. If you go to that website and search for threads on Trump, you'll find plenty and they generally are filled with people making some combination of serious criticisms along with more frivolous ones about how the dumb shit he says is less funny than it used to be (like remember when he quoted "Two Corinthians" in front of some Christian university to try to pander to evangelicals? I was laughing for a week).
But aside from when some new story is especially heinous (like immigrants "eating pets") and where it's entertaining, Communists tend to find it more important to criticize Democrats not because they are worse but because they require more calling out. It's like what Malcolm X said about the Wolf and the Fox, where the Wolf bares its teeth at you and you know immediately what your relationship to it is, but the Fox shows its teeth as a smile, as though it is trying to befriend you. Most people understand the Wolf (though some unfortunately still support it), many people misunderstand the Fox.
Try getting GarbageShootAlt2 to criticise the republican party. You’ll find the conversation quickly turns to how awful the democratic party is. It'll tale a long time, but it will ALWAYS come back to that.
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, why call me mentally ill in such determined, persistent, derogatory, dismissive and contemptuous way if I think it's a duck?
You think republicans aren't all over your instance lying to convince folks like you to not vote democratic? That's naive. That's really naive. You probably think putin is a communist!
If you can find it in your messages, then you can provide us with a link, no? It may not work, but I can try some stuff to see if I can get it to, it should still be there, otherwise it eouldsay "removed by X"
He does recycle actual Russian propaganda though. If you call him out on it, he deletes it and pretends it never happened. I caught him out three times.
Ah thanks for the heads up.