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  • Nah, I did just post a libertarian article. And libertarians in effect would take votes AWAY from trump. https://lemmy.world/post/18907042

    That doesn't really fit the narrative that a lot of Lemmys seem to want for me though. lol

    • And libertarians in effect would take votes AWAY from trump

      Oh so you do believe in spoiler candidates? What's your defense for constant third party and green party advocacy if you know it's a statistical fact that spoiler effect exists?

      • No, I don't believe in it. I was using the argument that you all throw at me every single day. :) And I find it hilarious that you all think it's ok, when it happens to the Republicans, just not when it happens to YOUR party. lol

        • No, I don't believe in it. I was using the argument that you all throw at me every single day

          So you were using an argument you don't even believe just to try and win an argument because you can't defend your real position? That's incredibly bad faith.

          when it happens to the Republicans, just not when it happens to YOUR party

          Yes, literally anything that breaks voters from the Republican party is good, and everything that breaks voters away from Democrats is bad. That's because the Republicans are full of fascists hell bent on destroying American democracy, and the Democrats are the only credible thing standing against them.

          • So you were using an argument you don’t even believe just to try and win an argument because you can’t defend your real position?

            No, I was pointing out the hypocrisy that's being shown in people who use that argument. It's not really that deep, friend.

            Yes, literally anything that breaks voters from the Republican party is good, and everything that breaks voters away from Democrats is bad.

            In YOUR view. I respect and support your right to an opinion, but not every one has the same opinion as you. Including about half of the country.

            s half of the country "fascists" now? lol

            • No, I was pointing out the hypocrisy that's being shown in people who use that argument

              Bullshit, there's nothing in that comment to indicate it was sarcasm, and the "I'm pulling from Republicans too but that doesn't fit your narrative" defence goes directly against what you're now saying.

              I respect and support your right to an opinion

              There were once people who had the opinion that it was moral to own other people. There were once people who had the opinion that other people should be marched into camps to be gassed and burned. Not all opinions are equal, and some opinions, such as those, deserve to be called abhorrent and fascist.

              is half of the country "fascists" now? lol

              Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on gay people this past decade? Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on trans people this last decade? Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on immigrants this past decade? Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on Muslims this past decade? Did you not see the last Republican president try desperately to overturn the results of a free and fair election before finally inciting an insurrection? Did you not hear him say he'll be a dictator and suspend the constitution next time if elected?

              There are some Republicans who still respect America's institutions, such as Pence and Romney, but they've been effectively expelled from the party. Trumpian Fascism now rules the Republican base by a majority, you just need to look at their primary results this year to see that's the case.

              • There were once people who had the opinion that it was...

                So do you support and respect my right to have an opinion that is different than yours? Because I respect and value your right to have an opinion that is different than mine.

                Trumpian Fascism now rules the Republican base by a majority, you just need to look at their primary results this year to see that’s the case.

                So as I asked earlier, is half of the country fascist now?

                Do you think all Republicans are fascists?

                Because I don't. And I'm not Republican, and I don't vote Republican.

                • So do you support and respect my right to have an opinion that is different than yours?

                  Sure if your opinion doesn't directly lead to the rise of fascism. Oh wait, you repeatedly post leftist third party advocacy in the middle of the election to decide Fascism or Democracy? No I don't respect that opinion and seemingly almost no one here does, that's why your hundreds of posts and comments on your two week old account have been down voted to hell.

                  Do you think all Republicans are fascists?

                  Anyone who still supports Trump after a decade of his rhetoric and actions is a Fascist. I repeat again:

                  Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on gay people this past decade? Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on trans people this last decade? Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on immigrants this past decade? Have you heard none of the Republican rhetoric on Muslims this past decade? Did you not see the last Republican president try desperately to overturn the results of a free and fair election before finally inciting an insurrection? Did you not hear him say he'll be a dictator and suspend the constitution next time if elected?

                  Nice job ignoring me pointing out your bad faith argument by the way.

                  • No I don’t respect that opinion and seemingly almost no one here does, that’s why your hundreds of posts and comments on your two week old account have been down voted to hell.

                    So do you think people should only post articles they think will get upvoted? And create an echo chamber of "like-think." Do you think that would be better than supporting diversity of thought and opinion?

                    Oh wait, you repeatedly post leftist third party advocacy in the middle of the election to decide Fascism or Democracy?

                    I'm not sure what you are implying. Care to clarify?

                    I post Libertarian third party news as well, which in theory takes votes away from Republicans. Funny how those don't get nearly the number of downvotes. Hmmm, curious.

                    Anyone who still supports Trump after a decade of his rhetoric and actions is a Fascist. I repeat again:

                    So again, do you think that half of the country is made up of fascists now? You know, you can just answer yes or no. Pretty simple question.

                    Half of entire country isn't going to vote for your candidate. Are they wrong? Are they fascists?

                    I respect and support your right to vote for whoever you want. Do you support them voting for whoever they want, as is their American right?

                    • Good try bad faith troll. Hopefully, you get banned for spam soon, these arguments aren't even worth refuting.

                      • Renoved, civility.

                      • Hopefully, you get banned for spam soon,

                        Why would I get banned for spam?

                        These are political news articles written by news orgs, and posted to a political news Lemmy community. That's not "spam." That's called posting content that matches theme of the community.

                      • Good try bad faith troll. Hopefully, you get banned for spam soon,

                        I'm not a troll tho. I just have a different opinion than yours. I support and respect your right to your own opinion. I just have a different one.

                        And calling someone in this sub a troll is generally deemed uncivil, definitely not respectful, and may be against the rules. Please keep your replies to me civil.

                        Just because you don't agree with me, no reason to get personal and lower down to name-calling.

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