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Heated conversation about Lemmy.world MediaBiasFactCheck bot

lemm.ee YSK Lemmy.World is fundraising for a Zionist media lobby - lemm.ee

Recently Lemmy.World admins have heavily started pushing an MBFC bot in their bigger subs despite it being deeply unpopular with the users. However rating propaganda was not enough for the mods as they are now actively fundraising for MBFC as well. [https://lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F...

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man while I have some sympathies that MBFC is not the best. And their left right ratings are at best problematic.
I’ve blocked OOP here on my account and I don’t take blocking lightly. So I imagine they’ve said some pretty fucked up shit or are a troll.
- I'm surprised he isn't banned yet. Is it just me or do I see a lot of Tankie shit on lemm.ee? Is it another lemmy.ml / lemmygrad / hexbear cesspool? I think lemmy.zip was another smaller one that had a lot of Tankie traffic. Or is that just a consequence of them somehow (?) not defederating from the Tankie instances?
  
  I’ve noticed some dodgy tankie accounts on both lemm.ee and lemmy.world
  I think it’s because the instances are lightly moderated and it is easy to make an account. So it attracts people who want to troll/bad intentions.
  Beehaw defederated from world because of this
  
  On world I've seen them in the news communities, but I pretty much blocked them all by now because of the unwillingness to moderate by all of them, specifically regarding disinformation. Though, the instance is too big for me to ban every community, like I do with lemmy.ml. At that point there would be not much activity left and it is already incredibly lowly populated.
  I can appreciate Beehaw blocking the more extreme left instances though, even though they are pretty left leaning too.
  
  Yeah I’ve blocked .ml too.
  I don’t think world is that bad, I used it for a long time until I switched here to Blahaj, but yeah a lot of the dodgy accounts tend to come from world and lemm.ee. Once you’ve got the tankie trifecta (hexbear, grad and ml) blocked.
  
  Unfortunately on mbin I can only block the specific communities or users, not the entire instance.
  
  I don't think Beehaw blocked .world out of any political motivation at all. They simply have a very strict vision of the atmosphere and style of interactions they want their users to have, and the combination of unrestricted sign-ups, lax moderation and lacking moderation tools in general made this vision impossible - hence defederation.
  
  By that logic you'd have to defederate from basically anything because the moderation tools and sign-ups are about the same everywhere.
  
  And that is indeed what Beehaw is doing, as far as I'm aware. Though curiously lemm.ee isn't on their block list (yet)^[1]
  Though I think the latest word is that Beehaw is leaving Lemmy altogether in the future.
  
  No, they block kinda specific based on certain factors, as outlined by the other person.
  And yes, the lack of moderation controls is one of the big reasons why they want to leave.
  
  Lemmy.world and Lemm.ee both have what I consider to be an unacceptable number of authoritarian, both capitalist (fascist) and communist (tanky), on their servers and leave them up in the name of being enlightened centrists willing to hear anyone out. Sh.itjust.works used to be more Nazish, but I think they had a vote in their agora community at some point that's allowed their admins and mods to be more proactive than back when I had an account there.
  
  Lemmy.world and Lemm.ee both have what I consider to be an unacceptable number of authoritarian, both capitalist (fascist) and communist (tanky), on their servers
  Have you reported them? I host a few communities on lemm.ee, sorry to hear this
  
  I've been filing reports when someone's clearly over the line, but I've noticed a pattern with certain agitators who never fully cross the line in any single comment but toe the line in all of them, and in the aggregate pretty clearly are... gross
  
  Interesting. I was going to say this might be because lemm.ee is the 2nd most active server? (3200 vs 2500 for sh.itjust.works https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy/), so maybe the ratio is similar, but they are just more because the total number of users is larger
  
  Should have been way back. They're in Europe. Created the account after October 7th. Apologize for Hamas on a regular basis. Tell people in the US to vote 3rd party or not vote at all. But no matter what don't vote for Biden/Harris.
  Obvious troll account is obvious. It's the same thing Russia did in 2016. Promoted Jill Stein as an alternative back then too. Is exactly what that account has been doing for months.
  
  i love the "i didnt post anything offensive, i just said that "Israel are nazis"" claim.
  Like, I'm no Israel sympathizer, and think they are genociding the Palastinian people, but that claim is so deep rooted in antisemitism its idiotic

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