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  • Patient gamers, what are your favourite city builders?

    As Cities Skylines II still isn't worth it (the sub has a regular thread about that, in summary: no it's not: https://old.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines/comments/1ch6lup/is_cities_skylines_ii_worth_it_megathread/) which games scratch your city building itch?

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  • 9 years later, I finally played fallout 4

    Having dropped New Vegas in the past due to lost interest, I decided to try this game out finally since a friend of mine was having a fallout 3 playthrough himself. It was it 8 bucks, so I figured why not. I have to say, I put way more hours into this game than both other Bethesda games I've played through (Skyrim and Oblivion) before even finishing the main quest line. The combat was excellent in my opinion, and I (seem to be in the minority of people who) really liked the story. The choices it forces you to make sometimes really had me feeling emotional at times. I also played it with some minor mods installed, just some custom outfits and real world guns for immersion. Nothing to break the story or anything, though there are a few DLC sized mods I'm eyeing up to play in the future. Overall I seriously enjoyed this game, I've noticed online it seems to be regarded as one of the least popular mainline games but I think it's become my favourite Bethesda game I've tried so far honestly. Seriously recommend anyone who hasn't played this yet to at least give it a try. It really pulled me in.

    Edit: Since I'm done with F4, got New Vegas running with some nice mods to add gritty aesthetics and real world weapons. Giving it another try 6 years after I initially tried it and so far I'm way more into it!

    Edit 2: more specific context

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  • Getting into Civ 6

    I got into Civilization rather late with their fifth entry. I was hesitant because as I get older I need more time to game than I do new titles. Still I picked up six with all DLC during the last sale. I have to say I am liking the changes. It was good to wait because Civ does need its DLCs to feel complete.

    On a side note, it runs quite nice on the Steam Deck (In desktop mode docked)

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  • [screenshot] Quake II RTX on the little APU that could

    I had to take my GPU out to do some troubleshooting, so I figured why not try some games on the old Ryzen 5700G. Ray-traced Quake wasn't exactly playable at 3 fps, but I'm impressed that it could load and display correctly.

    Other games I tried; Portal RTX wouldn't start at all. Spider-Man remastered did start, but I can't get past the load menu, not related to the Ryzen APU. Most of my library is 10+ years old, so pretty much everything else runs fine on the APU.

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  • Have win7 laptop. What to play on it?

    Have a win 7 mouseless laptop I'd like to put a game on and play for funs. Typically my go to game for olden computers is Heroes of Might and Magic 3 or maybe Civ 4. Any recommendations?

    Diablo2, WC3, and RTSs would be tricky because lack of mouse and I'd prefer no rush to my actions so I can simultaneously be coding and just do minibreaks taking a turn or part of a turn here and there

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  • What's your favourite era for video games?

    Era can be defined as a console generation, a decade, one specific year, whatever you want. I’d encourage you to give a list of your favourite games from the generation of choice and why it was the best to you. Nostalgia is a totally viable reason too.

    I’ll go first. For me, the 360 era is my GOAT. As someone in their 20s, I grew up with the 360 so nostalgia is definitely a big factor. But on top of that, I still feel like the games during that time were some of the best we’ve had. 2011 alone was a fantastic year, with Dark Souls, Skyrim, Portal 2 and many more great games. I was going to list out my favourite games from 2005-2013 but I love so many it would be far too long of a post.

    I’d love to hear some of you talk about your favourite time period of games too, whether it’s agreeing with my choice or giving different opinions

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  • TOEM is an amazing game, here's why

    Summary

    TOEM is a pretty short indie game that revolves around taking pictures in order to complete quests in connected levels. The art and customization of both your character and the game world really stand out and this is an amazing title to play on the Steam Deck.

    A Camera Game???

    I cannot sing high enough praises for the use of cameras in video games when done properly. Whether its Dead Rising 1 or Pokemon Snap, cameras tend to be very engaging and this game handles it in a very unique way. This game somehow blends elements of integrating the world with your camera instead of the usual way of slapping on the feature.

    Most of what you'll be doing is just finding objects to snap a photo of and then doing so. The difference here is that the game both encourages and demands creativity. For instance, the photo filters and camera tripod are mechanics that must be engaged with to complete quests. The various hats your character can wear usually have gameplay elements.

    I'm not creative, does this game love me?

    I'm not a very creative person, I'm the type that wouldn't play this game just for the fun of taking pictures. I tend to be utilitarian in completing game objectives and yet I found myself exploring with TOEM and taking photos just for fun. There is no score on the photos and no point to taking random pics and yet there I was photographing myself with the incredibly cute characters.

    You'll start this game off thinking nothing of a lot of the photos you take and by the end you're really exploring. The levels progress in complexity which lets you take more interesting photos. You'll spend time collecting photos of every adorable animal in each level. Or maybe you'll be searching for hidden clues. Maybe you'll find a wacky character and strike a pose with them. This game actually makes you want to do those things and just have dumb fun with it.

    The kind of fetch quest photographers crave

    To tie it all together, the quests come in to really flesh out the experience and showcase fun and inviting things to do in the world of TOEM. Each level has very unique quests that range from finding ancient cave drawings to spotting mysterious monsters. None of the quests are too hard and none take too much time or overstay their welcome. Each level of 20 or so quests can be done in less than half an hour so you always feel like you're making progress.

    Final Thoughts

    If any of the above concepts sound at all interesting to you, go play this game. It's a short experience and you'll spend around 5 or so hours with it, all of the time having fun pushing forward through the quests. The art is amazing, the sound is just right and often relaxing, and I don't think you'll regret your time with this one. Tell me about your experiences with cameras in other games and what you think of it here. Also pick up the free demo on steam for the game if you're interested!

    !

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  • How do you like to approach writing about games?

    How do you like to approach writing about games?

    I've noticed there are some folks writing at length here on their experiences playing games, so this felt like a good place to ask. Do you take notes as you play, and/or after each session, then write out full thoughts upon completing a game?

    Or are your reflections compiled only after finishing a game, no notes?

    I've dabbled with different approaches, and haven't really settled on a consistent process personally.

    @patientgamers

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  • Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex - Cavia's Magic at Full Display

    TL;DR: Mediocre and flawed game, still had fun. ***

    Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex is a PS2 action game developed by Cavia. Those familiar with that name might already know what to expect and those who don't... let's just say this studio isn't known for their masterpieces.

    Post doesn't contain spoilers.

    Story

    Story was written with the help of staff from Production I.G, studio responsible for Ghost in the Shell anime (and many other series), and feels like an alright secondary arc from the SAC show - not an original one mind you, but still floating around some of the themes tackled there.

    Beyond the lack of originality it also suffers from how it is presented: each stage starts with an audio briefing, followed by a short cutscene and another call after loading into the stage proper. It's not a great system and it feels like a budgetary restriction rather than anything else however it still a part of the game and affects how it's received.

    All in all, it's nothing mind blowing but decent enough.

    Gameplay

    As mentioned before, GitS: SAC is an action game - it has shooting, melee combat and platforming, with most of the play time focused on the first one.

    Control scheme is weird and unintuitive for anyone used to playing modern action games with homogenized button layouts but it's not unplayable or even a huge problem once you get used to it.

    Movement feels rather stiff but not painfully so. It suffers from janky and limited animations that not only look dated but also unpolished at times.

    Jumping is a bit floaty which might make the platforming sections a bit more challenging than they should be. I didn't have too many issues with that (except in like two places focused on wall jumping) but I've seen people struggle with those parts so I guess it's worth a mention.

    There's a dodge move but it's kind of useless - Major does cool acrobatic jumps that look good (the only good animations in the game) but also makes the camera focus on her and follow her movement which can lead to losing track of an enemy you're trying to avoid. Batou does a slow dive that neither protects him from damage nor moves you far enough to scatter away from danger.

    Shooting doesn't provide a lot of "oomph" and can feel a bit bullet spongy depending on where you aim (there is a damage multiplier depending on body parts, even for mechanical units).

    You have access to two weapons and up to three gadgets at once - gadgets use melee button to throw so you have to switch between them and unarmed attacks. It's easy to blow yourself up if you're not careful.

    One big issue here is bad camera control - it's slow and feels sticky in a way that makes smooth aiming almost impossible. I'm not sure if it's just a screw up or an attempt at some kind of auto-aim/target-snapping but it's not great.

    Melee is pretty limited, with just a few basic attacks flowing into a simple combo. It's also pretty situational as running head first into a group of enemies can be extremely deadly.

    There's also a simple hacking minigame which allows you to take over an enemy for 20-30 seconds. It's not particularly useful but can help with killing few enemies if you're fast enough.

    All those elements are pretty basic in a way familiar to anyone experienced with budget titles from that era. They work well enough to not be a chore or make the game unplayable. Not only that, I had a decent amount of fun throughout.

    Graphics

    Surprisingly decent. While some of the interior locations can feel samey at times there's also a decent amount of nice looking vistas and backgrounds

    Two playable characters, Major and Batou, look good. I wasn't entirely sold on Major's design initially but ended up liking it quite a lot (especially when equipped with a "stun unit" which gives her big Shadow the Hedgehog shoes). Batou looks pretty close to his anime version.

    Enemies have distinct designs that let you know what's you're going to deal with - as long as you can see them that is. The big problem with enemies is a stupidly short draw distance which can lead to situations where you end up shooting into an empty space because the reticle turned red.

    As mentioned before, animations are very limited. Most of them look like placeholders rather than an intended end result. The only exception for this is Major's air ballet when dodging - these moves feel like the only set animators spent some actual time on.

    Finally, there are prerendered cutscenes. They appear at the beginning of every stage and are quite good - both from graphical and composition standpoints. They're also pretty short so we don't get to watch much of them.

    Sound

    Music is a mixed bag. Some tracks sound a bit GitS-like (without reaching the quality of anime unfortunately), some (mainly combat ones) can be a bit repetitive and dull. None of them got on my nerves so at least there's that.

    Characters are voiced by their anime VAs which is neat. Their performances are alright if a little flat - that might be because of the direction or due to the fact I'm more familiar with the JP cast of GitS, not sure about that one. They're good enough for the most part.

    What's not good enough? Tachikomas. I like those muppets both in English and Japanese versions of the anime, here on the other hand they went a little too far into the annoying and silly aspects of their characterization.

    There's not much to write about the sound effects - they're about what you'd expect from a mediocre shooter from that era. They neither break nor enhance the experience in any significant way.

    Summary

    I didn't have high expectations starting this game. I've seen plenty of opinions about it being "not great" to say the least and knowing the devs behind the project didn't do much to alleviate my worries.

    Despite all the jank, mediocrity and a couple of frustrating sections (mainly focused on wall jumping) I had a surprising amount of fun. It wasn't a fantastic experience I'll remember for the rest of my life but it was enjoyable enough I managed to stick with it to the end - that's more than I can say about some of the critically acclaimed classics in my library.

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  • Patient Recommendation: Waking Mars

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/227200/Waking_Mars

    Waking Mars is a small, relaxing, but never boring game that features a pretty fun mechanic and an engaging story about a science researcher that is stranded on Mars.

    I got it in a Humble Bundle years ago and I don't want this game to be overlooked or forgotten. If you like space, and the mystery surrounding Mars' past, this is a great game for you. It is available on mobile and Steam!

    Give it a try! The Steam version is the best one, the keys are a bit expensive now (they are on sale sometimes) but you may find other ways to get a key. Or maybe you have it lying around from an old bundle? If anyone else has played it too, I'd be happy to discuss it!

    https://isthereanydeal.com/game/waking-mars/info/

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  • Reflections on Xenoblade Chronicles

    Xenoblade Chronicles has been one of the broadly popular JRPG series as of late, particularly within my own social circles. I have heard mostly good things about the games, and some vocal criticisms about the second game in particular. After finally picking up a Switch last year, I have now made my way through most of the series.

    Before trying Xenoblade myself, I had a mixed history with Xeno series creator Tetsuya Takahashi. He’s had quite a career, having worked on games in the Ys, Final Fantasy, SaGa, Mana, and Chrono series. Xenogears was his first project as a director, and I knew next to nothing about the game when I picked it up at release in 1998. It surprised me in a lot of ways, being my first real dip into the mecha genre, accompanied by a truly massive and thought-provoking script (both big changes from the SNES’s smaller scripts and censorship). My continuing experience with Xeno was less successful. Xenosaga’s move to a more cinematic style gave it a plodding pace, packed with jargon and word salad. I also didn’t connect with most of the trilogy’s characters, I found most of the gameplay boring, and I’d somehow missed the memo that Xenosaga was a reboot and not directly connected to Xenogears, souring me on the experience in general.

    I didn’t have a lot of success with Xenoblade Chronicles for a while. I came to the first game late in 2017, spurred by positive word-of-mouth that had resurfaced after the announcement of XC2. While I got along with the characters better than I did in Xenosaga and enjoyed the excellent setting, I ultimately had to make an effort to avoid the game’s numerous sidequests. Being an MMO player, they would have felt dated to me even back at the game’s release in 2010, and their supporting elements in the UI were extremely basic. The game’s saving grace for me would be the gameplay, a fun romp with a squad that I enjoyed tinkering with.

    My experience with Xeno changed with XC2. I had a rough start at first when I picked the game up last year, not really sure what to make of the main character and light-hearted tone of the game, a huge departure from the previous games in the series. But when the conversations with Pyra started, a deep hook set in. I immediately connected with this character, someone that seemed eminently competent but had a pensive demeanor, hinting at a darkness within. After I learned more about this character as her whole story unfolded in both XC2 and its DLC Torna, Pyra became my favorite character in the series. For the first time in 25 years, Xeno was finally starting to hit some of those same emotional notes it did for me in Xenogears. Hitting on that nostalgia also led to me thinking about interesting similarities between Fei from Xenogears and Pyra and Mythra.

    In hindsight, making those connections across the series seems to be half the fun. Xenoblade Chronicles 3 and Future Redeemed are packed with little (and not-so-little) nods to much of past Xeno. I had a good time with this aspect of XC3, and in some ways it picked up where XC2 left off with getting me to be interested in this cast and world. I also really enjoyed the gameplay, seeing the results of refinements to the UI in particular that were sorely needed, culminating in my being thrilled at controlling A and seeing her flip around the battlefield in the DLC. An impressive achievement, considering I almost always hate playing healers in this type of gameplay!

    I know fans of Xenoblade Chronicles have strong opinions about their favorites, but there were things that I loved (the setting in XC1, the cast in 2, the gameplay and Xeno callbacks in 3), and there were things that drove me nuts in each of the games. I’ve given up on the stories getting some much-needed pruning (every Xeno game and DLC I’ve played has padding or spots that just don’t work), so I can roll with that. I also don’t know if I’ll ever get to XCX or Future Connected. Xeno isn’t exactly my top ongoing series at the moment, but I’m still interested in what Takahashi is cooking up next.

    Any thoughts on Xenoblade Chronicles? Or the Xeno series at large?

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  • Morrowind is overly Morrowind

    After writing a lot about it referencing my last playthroughs, I started it once again via OpenMW with official expansions and nude mode only, for it became kind of a habit.

    So, initially it looks like an RPG, and we see these stacks of numbers in a character sheet affecting our speaking capabilities or our impotency to kill a crab, okay. If we dive more into it, we'd learn our ways not only around that, but also to become the most potent mass killer Nirn ever had. Alchemy loops to boost your intelligence and brew a better potion of intelligence are known for 20 years already, even in Skyrim, and the ways this game is completely broken are meta-knowledge making us love it even more.

    But is it only an RPG?

    More, than in other TES games, I encountered a lot of NSFL content. No, I don't talk about Suran's harlots, but about customs of danmers and the Sixth House.

    We can go back to the Planescape: Torment, the game that starts in a morgue that people don't play these days (sorrely), russian Pathologic that hbomberguy praised and where kids with dog heads exchange stuff for razors and drugs, or that cringe project called Hatred, but non of them combined have the same amount of what is now considered non-publishable.

    Besides encountering racism and cop's attention at any step (even if you are a dunmer, because you are still not a native), we have stories of imperials coming from Ilunibi and dying horribly due to corprus, that seems like a radiation poisoning. We have a cult that eats flesh and is one second from overthrowing the government, killing everyone who doesn't meet their criteria. We have all dunmers having dreams that make them insane and irrate, one step from starting a murder spree. We have gods, who by a treachery took their powers, and the center of the island being guarded by their weakening powers and literal bone ash from local funerals. We have a real gestapo from local officials, and we can participate in glory kills that are a custom of this wicked land, with us still be a member of churches and guilds. And don't even start talkimg about Fyr cloning himself into daughers, fucking them, and having a whole dungeon for adventurers to find either their award or a sudden death. Or that one quest when you search for a sex slave. And that all continues in a completely corrupt world where a duel or a bribe can significantly change the political landscape.

    There's so much I can put Horror, Thriller, Grindhouse lables on, or those I don't even know. I'm glad it happened in my life and I can replay it now on any system, even on mobile phone. But it's even more vile than Fallout and it's one of the reasons it clicked with me. Morrowind is very russian, and it's popularity on our 4chan clones cements this. If your friend ever get vocal about moving here, get them Morrowind as a testing experience and then ask, if they still want that. Guess, they wouldn't, for their own good.

    I would love to hear your stories about how beautiful or grim this game is.

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  • Too Many Bones just arrived; excited to play

    TMB has been on my wishlist for years but the price tag has been too high... this week I noticed it was in stock and a bit of extra funds had came in as well so I decided it was time to finally buy a copy.

    The game arrived today and I'm super impressed with the component quality. Even the tuck boxes and other component containers are well beyond the quality I've come to expect in a high quality board game.

    Hopefully will find time in an upcoming busy weekend to squeeze in a first play.

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  • About to try the Outer Worlds

    I’ve been very busy with work the last few months so I haven’t really played any games, but things are finally starting to get back to normal a bit and I wanted to try this RPG. I played it a bit when it came out but decided to really dive into it this time. Just wondering if there’s anyone here who’s played it and has any advice? I’ve had the game spoiled for me already so don’t worry about spoilers.

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  • Save 66% on Rusty Lake Hotel on Steam
    store.steampowered.com Save 66% on Rusty Lake Hotel on Steam

    Are you ready to serve the guests in the Rusty Lake Hotel? Solve all mysteries in this dark and eerie puzzle game. Rusty Lake Hotel is a point-and-click adventure by the creators of the Rusty Lake & Cube Escape series.

    Save 66% on Rusty Lake Hotel on Steam

    So just a little fun little old-school macabre point and click game that's on sale right now for .67.

    A nice little bite-sized game for all those who still have a soft spot for this now niche gaming genre.

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  • Older patient gamers: what is your preferred gaming platform?

    I used to be a PC-only gamer but the older I get the more I gravitate toward very 'simple' platforms.

    Because my gaming time slots can be unpredictable and sometimes short I can't take too much time setting things up.

    I was surprised to find that I use the Nintendo Switch a lot because the games are on cartridges (usually few to no downloading needed) and I can continue playing the game when I am away from home. Really surprising, considering I bought it out of curiosity in 2017 and that it is in some ways underpowered compared to my other devices- I never had a Nintendo 'home' console before that.

    I thought of adding the PS4 to this mention however recently I've been avoiding playing it due to the constant updates. The worst example was when my SO bought me Red Dead Redemption 2. I sat down, excited to play it, when suddenly it pormpted me to download a HUGE update . It really kind of ruined my first session.

    What are your experiences and your preferred devices?

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  • Games like Mother

    So, I'm a big JPRG fan and just playing through Mother 3. I love Mother 2 (aka Earthbound) as well. I love the music, quirkiness, style, pacing, simple yet rewarding tactics in boss battles.

    So, I would appreciate any game recommendations you have for a similar game or game series.

    If it helps, my other favorite JRPGs are: Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 6, 9, and 10.

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  • Ahead of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 the first medieval RPG is 80% on Steam
    www.pcgamesn.com Ahead of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 the first medieval RPG is 80% on Steam

    Kingdom Come: Deliverance is 80% off for the next few days as Warhorse Studios reveals the sequel, so get in on the RPG game cheap now.

    Ahead of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 the first medieval RPG is 80% on Steam
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  • How does Assassin's Creed 2 hold today?

    Hello everyone,

    Just have been in an Italian/Renaissance mood lately, and thought it would be nice to give a shot (I never really played the series).

    How good is it by today standards? I know that the late episodes of the series have been criticized for being quite repetitive and just filled with low-value artefact gathering, is it the case for this one to?

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  • Drakengard 3 - It's Trash, I Love It

    I've been trying to finish this write-up for a while now but due to the combination of limited time and constantly changing thoughts about the game it was a rather difficult process. It should be good enough to communicate my feelings about D3 but get ready for a wall of text, lots of rambling and rough edges - sorry about that.

    Post doesn't contain any spoilers.

    Intro

    Drakengard is a difficult series to write about. None of the entries is objectively good as actual game and yet they can provide a type of experience that's still rare to this day.

    I finished replaying Drakengard 3 some time ago, years after I engaged with it in any form beyond listening to the OST. It has been long enough I managed to forget A LOT (pretty much all of routes B & C as well as some other parts of the game). To some extent this playthrough felt like I was going through this story for the first time and that was probably the best case scenario I could think of before doing it.

    I decided to play the game on my Steam Deck - both to see how well it would run and because it was an a great way to put in a session right before sleep. The good news is, game runs surprisingly well. Outside a few specific situations game held pretty stable 30FPS and felt better than the OG experience. Another benefit came from the small screen as it helped mask some of the less impressive visuals - hell, I was surprised how pretty the game could look in motion at times.

    One caveat however was the batter life - 2-2.5 hours depending on the load. It's understandable and worked out pretty well for me (again, I was doing these sessions right before sleep) but seeing such results is never particularly fun on a portable device.

    Gameplay

    Let's get the easy part out of the way - mediocre gameplay. It's neither revolutionary nor complete trash and works well enough for what it is. The biggest issue I had with it stems from the amount of worthless combat encounters used as pure padding.

    I'm not sure how much of said padding and reuse of assets comes down to the budget or the studio itself but I feel like game would improve a lot just by making a proper balance pass to cut down on some of the tedium. It wouldn't be a masterpiece but it would make the grind less of an issue.

    I initially wrote a paragraph about a limited enemy variety but after going over them again it's not actually that bad. The problem with that however lays with the fact that despite a decent number of enemy types, good chunk of them feels pretty similar during gameplay. It's kind of impressive.

    If you heard about this game before you probably know about the final boss. It's infamous for being unfair and kind of disrespectful towards the player (it's an 8 minute sequence with disorienting camera, 1HP and no checkpoints) but I ended up loving it. Mostly anyway.

    I appreciate the general concept of the fight as well as the gameplay change (it's pretty simple and fun if you know how to deal with purposefully confusing elements) - at the same time, I think the parts specifically intended to make you fail (especially at the very end of the fight) are bullshit and should never make it into the final product.

    It could've been a special moment to wrap up the game but ended up feeling mean spirited towards everyone who dared to stick with it until the finale.

    Story

    Drakengard 3 turned out to be both worse and just as good as expected. While the main story is solid, most of it is dumped right at the end of the game with rest of the playtime focused on side branches that don't really do much beyond showing "well, this timeline is screwed in a new way, oh well". This is a pretty big issue with writing as over all, not much happens in this story compared to other titles.

    There are some pretty neat nods and setups to other games - not important to this game's story but I found them to be interesting additions nonetheless.

    The finale and some of the major moments can hit pretty hard is you're invested however that doesn't excuse the amount of inconsequential stuff happening along the way.

    Another problem lays with humor - it's juvenile and rather one note. If you like or at least can tolerate it that's fine but this will be a big turn off to a lot of people. Even ones interested in Taro's other works. It's not all bad and there are some genuinely funny moments but these were a minority for me.

    Characters

    Main characters, Zero and her sisters, are interesting. They all start pretty archetypal but they do have their own stuff going on beyond this initial impression. Unfortunately, some of that info is locked behind DLC and outside media (which varies in quality apparently).

    Additionally, there's the issue of localization. It's not terrible but it does change some of the characters in pretty significant ways - the most glaring example being Zero, our MC. Her JP persona is more mature and calm with a sense of guilt, EN version on the other hand feels more like an angry asshole (though she does have her moments).

    I also really love Maaya Uchida as Zero - she did a great job with her role and might be one of my favorite performances in Taro-verse. EN voices in general didn't fully hit the mark for me to be honest. Some of that comes down to the script and some to VA direction - not great, not terrible, just like the rest of the game.

    Side characters, the disciples, are pretty one note - mostly focused on a single trait, related to horny stuff. There is some character development along the way but most of it is relegated to later parts of the game and gets partially reset with each branch.

    Mikhail, our dragon, can be hit or miss for people. I get why he is how he is and liked him from the beginning but I can see why others would be annoyed with him. He's a good baby.

    Music

    Not much to say about this, it's good. Good enough that I keep listening to it whenever my mind gets stuck thinking about the series.

    Boss themes are fast and energetic, calm and somber songs carry their atmosphere perfectly and generic combat music is memorable enough I ended up humming alongside it during stages. Some of the songs could easily fit on Nier soundtrack (either game).

    There's also an amazingly haunting version of an ending theme from the original game - now even better than before!

    Summary

    All in all I'm a bit on the fence about Drakengard 3. It has really strong concepts as well as fun and enjoyable moments. It also has a lot of problems with writing, gameplay and technical execution. It can be janky. It can be frustrating. It can be straight up embarrassing at times.

    It can be a real gem if you're able to get over its issues. It can be an frustrating mess if you can't.

    This game is trash and yet, for some reason, I still love it.

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  • Fallout 4

    So I figured it's about time I gave this game a shot.

    I'm familiar with the series, but never really loved it, have played all previous titles but most of my time is on F3 and FNV.

    I think the reason why I didn't pick this up earlier was because I didn't feel like going further into the Fallout universe, it felt like Bethesda were milking the golden cow.

    Of course I'm trying it now as I picked it up cheap and the TV series has come along, of which in almost at the end of. It very much feels like the TV show is Fallout 4 on TV, but then I've never played F76.

    The game is nice, very familiar to what I remember of F3 and FNV, I wonder how open it is with the perks system, or will I have to put levels into gunplay at some point?

    I'm trying to stick to the main quest to start with, I've helped out the Minutemen, and then made a b-line to Diamond City before setting off to find the private detective so still pretty early on. Dogmeat is a fine companion for the road.

    Any tips or suggesting for a good start, and play through?

    There is a patch landing at the end of the month, so I haven't experimented with any mods just yet.

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  • Deliver Us Mars: Ultimately just not enjoyable

    So I finally got around to trying out Deliver Us Mars, having never played the predecessor but having a fair few friends rave about it (the previous game) being this rough but amazing gem.

    With the successor... I made it to just after landing on Mars before I had to drop it. Ugh.

    It's not a bad game, not at all. I found two really big positive things about it:

    • The vistas on Mars are truly breathtaking with everything cranked up to max. They did phenomenal work here, it really feels like you're alone on this giant red planet that is utterly alien to you.
    • The sequence before that, in zero gravity, was amazing in how it felt moving around in a cramped space. Especially in first-person view.

    But throughout the entire 3 hours up to that point, the actual atmosphere struggled hard against the facial and character models. And since the game is talk-heavy in the early parts, the camera constantly shows faces. Which look incredibly bad. Really amazing, as if someone intentionally tried to do that. And this would be alright - after all it's a small-budget game - but it contrasts really hard against the amazing scenery and space graphics.

    It was this weird contrast that kept pulling me out of the story, ruining the immersion. Then came the first bigger climbing areas, and budget Lara Croft was okay, but ultimately the straw that broke the camel's back.

    So, for me at least, set to "Abandoned" as completion state and uninstalled. A shame, there's a lot of really good pieces in here, they just never come together IMO.

    For those of you who played it, what was your experience?

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  • Games that still need more patience: what games released a year ago (or older) are you waiting for a sale on? Or that need another patch?

    Other than a slew of Nintendo titles that maybe hopefully will come down in price (the patient gamers' bane), I have my eye on the next time Divinity: Original Sin 2 goes on sale. A friend who never plays anything other than WoW loved playing Larian's newest with me and I'm trying to get her to pick this up. Pretty sure she'd like it.

    I was also watching Star Trek: Infinite's progress. I was quite interested in that one at launch but firmly decided to be patient. Naturally, it was discontinued last week. Oof.

    Are there any games you're currently price watching? Or hoping for bug fixes/more content?

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  • I am Tommy Vercetti

    I played a fair bit of GTA Vice City back in the day round friends' houses, but never played all the way through. Mostly just ran people over, got as many stars as possible and died. Don't get me wrong... I had a blast... but recently thought I'd play through the whole thing.

    The game itself holds up amazingly well I think! I am loving cruising around the city, collecting income from businesses, buying new businesses, swapping clothes, spraying cars... committing a lot of grand theft auto. I was pleasantly shocked at how compelling it is to play. I'm playing on my phone with a Razer Kishi too, so I can get my fix anywhere!

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  • Subset Games created two amazing games: FTL & Into The Breach

    I'm not sure if this counts as a "patient gamer" because I played them to death years ago...but I've been playing both again recently and they're just perfect little games with a ton of replayability. They're not retro (FTL 2012, ITB 2018) but they're old enough to regularly go on sale which is great!

    Highly recommended if you like roguelite strategy games.

    If you have any similar games to suggest, please leave a comment. I'm sure there's tons of great strategy games I've missed over the years

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  • Zelda. The minish cap

    So I finally started it.

    It's a fine game.

    I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

    I'm old. I'm patient.

    Please, please don't mention spoilers if possible. I love to crack nuts the old fashioned way. 🙂

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  • Best deal you ever got?

    What's the best game deal you ever got?

    For me it was the original Subnautica. Was a free give away before it got popular and I had no expectations when I played it. Really enjoyed the exploration and the pacing.

    Second was Axiom Verge - I got it for free before it became popular but I don't remember how. I bought it when it went to Steam because I wanted to support the creator.

    Both are fun exploration sorts of games if you haven't played them. Axiom Verge is a metroidvania. Kinda a weird game, but in a good way.

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  • How to revitalize this sub?

    I love the original patientgamers subreddit so I was stoked to find this community. And because lemmy seems to have a more knowledgeable crowd any topic I posted here had great engagement and discussions, despite the small community. I am too busy to be a mod but maybe I can help by sparking this discussion: what would be needed to keep this sub going?

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  • Super Mario Maker is shutting down, how should I prepare?

    Alas, the live service, bane of the patient gamer.

    I picked up the original Super Mario Maker on WiiU for cheap a few years ago but haven't really played it much (who knew that professional level designers are better at designing fun levels than internet randos?), but apparently its servers are being shut down on 8th April. (This has apparently been announced for a while but I only discovered it from recent articles about players trying to beat every level!)

    Does anyone know if there's any way to mass-download levels before the servers go offline? Is it just a case of manually downloading all the top levels one by one? Should I just play it intensely for two weeks assuming it'll then be reduced to the default levels regardless? Are there third-party tools to download levels on Cemu instead?

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  • Any recommendations for PS Vita games?

    I picked up a Vita recently. So far, Gravity Rush is the only game that I definitely want to play. Any other recommendations? I’m pretty open with genres, as long as it’s something with a story.

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  • Save 85% on Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number on Steam
    store.steampowered.com Save 85% on Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number on Steam

    Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number is the brutal conclusion to the Hotline Miami saga, set against a backdrop of escalating violence and retribution over spilled blood in the original game.

    Save 85% on Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number on Steam

    For less than the price for a cup of decent coffee, you can own this great, hyper violent sequel.

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  • Thoughts on a few recent games

    Mirror's Edge - This is a game I've been meaning to play for some time. A few years back I played the first couple of levels on a friend's PS3 and recalled it being a fun experience. So when it went on sale for under £2 on Steam I couldn't say no. It holds up exceptionally well for a game from 2008! The stylised graphics look beautiful to this day, and the gameplay manages to feel fresh and unique. Parkouring around the landscape soon becomes second nature - you feel like such a badass by the end of the game.

    Spyro Reignited Trilogy - Sadly I missed out on the original games, but this trilogy does a perfect job of remastering them for the modern era. The animations and art style are incredible; It really feels like a lot of love has gone into this remaster. All three games are a joy to play. The first one is a classic - basic but fun, the second tries out some new ideas, and the third one perfects them. Each instalment is fairly short, so packaging them in a trilogy was a great idea.

    RealMyst - Myst is regarded as one of the original, archetypal PC puzzle games and was very clearly ahead of its time. I think it's the sort of game I would've appreciated a lot more if I'd played it 20 years ago (although there's no way I could've beat it back then). Some of the logic jumps in the puzzles felt tenuous at best, though others were very cleverly designed. This was a frustrating game at times and I was pleased to get it over with, but I did enjoy the interesting world-building and innovation for its time.

    Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night - Symphony of the Night is the only Castlevania game I've completed*, partially because it's a bit easier than the others and partially because the music and graphics are so great that I wanted to see it through. Bloodstained continues this legacy and does an amazing job of it. Although graphically it's no where near as nice as the pixel art of SotN, I still found the graphics to be quite charming. The soundtrack is amazing, gameplay is smooth (with a lot of customisation in terms of equipment and spells) and exploring the castle is a treat. As with SotN, in order to beat the true final boss you have to find some items that would be near impossible to locate without a guide. Despite that, this is well worth playing.

    *Mostly completed

    Skyward Sword - Although I owed a Wii, I never picked up Skyward Sword. I think you had to buy an attachment for the Wiimote, and either way I wasn't a massive Zelda fan at the time. Since then I've played nearly every Zelda game and loved them all. So it was about time I got round to playing SS. Luckily a few years back they announced a Switch remaster which removed a lot of the clunky features from the original. Woo! I picked up a cheap copy and played though it late last year - And wow, this game exceeded my expectations. The dungeons in particular are some of the best I've played in a Zelda game (the time manipulation ones in particular stand out). Slashing around in specific directions is a neat mechanic, with the added benefit of now being able to do so by flicking a joystick. Surprisingly lengthy with a lot of great ideas! Give this one a go.

    Spiderman (2018) - Not sure how I missed this one when it came out! I guess I've never really got into the Spiderman series. After watching the Spider-verse films though I decided to give this a try. And now I can't wait to play the sequels! Insomniac did a incredible job making web swinging around the city feel fun. There's plenty of side content littered over the map, which often side-tracked me on my way to a mission. The combat feels very similar to the Batman Arkham games, with lots of moves and tools to unlock. Whilst the story isn't anything special, it kept me entertained and I was particular impressed by the facial capture and voice acting. All in all, this was a incredible experience throughout.

    Would be interested to hear what everyone else thought of these games! I've still got quite a large backlog so I'll continue onto the next ones :)

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  • Looking for a game with a great story... Could it be Watch Dogs: Legion?

    So two-part question here:

    If you've played Watch Dogs: Legion, did you like it?

    And especially, did you like it for the story?

    This makes me think the game is not primarily about the story: https://opencritic.com/game/7405/watch-dogs-legion

    I played WD2 and enjoyed that quite a bit though never finished it.

    I want the next game I play on my PC (via Steam, etc...) to have a great story. Recommendations greatly appreciated.

    Other games I've played with what I thought were great stories: Psychnoauts 2, Portal 2, Soma (though I'm not really into scary games), Firewatch, Metro all, The Talos Principle

    Cheers,

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