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Redfalls team is done for sure.

which is wild, because there's clearly a lot of talent there that was just spunked up the wall trying to create a game that any idiot could see right from the outset was conceptually awful

You really don’t have to keep attacking me you know?

buddy i literally just took what you said and changed a few words around. if it feels like attacking you then maybe do some self reflection?

where have i attacked you?

So is Traveller TTRPG, or Babylon Five, Warhammer 40K, etc., etc.

put literally anything from 40k next to literally anything from star wars and it becomes painfully obvious that they're two distinct properties

you're aware 40k essentially also has the force too, right? i'm not sure what point you're trying to make here

I’m talking the unique points of the world building/lore.

what unique points?

jedi are reskinned samurai, and the force is just a reskinned magic system combined with reskinned buddhism

then why not watch one of the many other options with jedi?

the eu is filled with stories that aren't about jedi or the force

so yeah, you're picking and choosing what counts based on your personal vibes

Just because you declare it as arbitrary doesn’t mean it’s actually arbitrary.

either you're defining star wars by the films, or you're picking and choosing what really "counts"

you're doing the latter

I guess I’ve just seen more movies than you

I guess you just don't really understand Star Wars as well as you think you do 🤷‍♂️

it's an aesthetic and a setting

if you define it as a narrative you can't step outside the first three films

Rogue One at times feels more like Star Wars than the original trilogy, and doesn't have a single Jedi in it.

Your measurement for what counts as "Star Wars" seems pretty arbitrary. 4 would be essentially the same movie even without the presence of any Jedi.

if where you draw the line on what counts as integral to a narrative is that arbitrary, why not just toss jedi too?

pop it on the list

A retcon would be “actually Snoke isn’t the main villain, he’s just a clone created by Palpatine.”

by the logic you're using, that still wouldn't be a retcon, because it would've been the intention the entire time

i'm also stunned you think anything about "he turns the lightsaber to face his TRUE ENEMY" was well handled

if for some reason you believe it's impossible for a film to retcon things, why not just save us both some time by opening with that, rather than having this pointless little back and forth?

it's a really weird time to argue for death of the author when we're talking more or less specifically about directorial intent and we have the interviews from people involved

it's also kind of weird to argue for death of the author while also insisting the emperor was only established in 5, when he's mentioned multiple times in 4

It’s impossible for 8 to have undercut 7’s core themes, because 7 doesn’t have any.

i'm not sure i'm the salty one here

by the logic you seem to be using, 9 also didn't undo anything 8 did, which is patently absurd

setting up a character to serve as a villain for three films then killing them off partway through the second is very clearly different than setting up a character to server as a villain for three films then killing them off at the end of the third film

by the logic you seem to be using, 9 also didn't undo anything 8 did, which is patently absurd

who's kevin

si stands for sabsolutely inot

short-sleeve-shirt-and-shorts°

snoke as the overarching villain

wow that was difficult

The flip side of that though is just you end up with detective shows and spy shows and soap operas, in space, with a splash of sci-fi paint thrown over them.

jedi are literally samurai with a splash of sci-fi paint

Jedi and Sith are a unique storytelling point, and there hasn’t been enough about their conflict with each other, and by that I mean whole organization versus whole organization wise, and them manipulating the larger politics of the various systems and so forth to their cause, etc.

you're describing the overarching plot of the prequels

The Sith as a large organization hasn’t been seen in movies or tv, only in games.

the rule of two kind of makes that impossible

if it was a standalone movie, sure

but it wasn't a standalone movie

it was a sequel to a movie and basically just served to undo everything 7 did

why make a trilogy if you're just going to have the first two films cancel out? just make 1 film

big pop rock