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their positive experiences with gay conversion therapy.

I am not looking for perspectives in favor of it, what I am looking for are any perspectives from people with high support needs, as the debate around it is usually led by either neurotypicals or (comparatively) independent autistics, who in many cases have no first hand experience with ABA. Autistics with high support needs are the ones most affected by ABA, and ironically they have virtually no voice in this debate, which bothered me.

The use of “levels” is also profoundly problematic. Google it.

Which expression do you prefer, then? genuine question. I found the 'levels' to be a better term as it distinguishes by support needs rather than 'intelligence', as the word 'Asperger' suggests. Googling didn't help with that question. Again, let me know what your preferred expression is.

ABA absolutely does not help anyone to learn important skills, but forces people to hide who they are to avoid shame and punishment. It’s abusive, causes trauma, and is not okay.

I read plenty about these things, and that's why I am also concerned. So what I'm looking for is experiences with the people most affected by it.

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but some of us have been affected by our past experiences and don’t really care to be reminded of them.

Fair point. I added a Content Warning to the post.

yes. It is regared as traumatic and abusive by many, many autistic self-advocates. I'll provide some links later. However, I found one perspective missing. The debate around it is held by either neurotypical people or by autistics with low support needs. So I'd like to know what autistics with higher support needs think and feel about the issue.

care to elaborate? I'm genuinely interested

I love Vital (Vitalium) and Zyn-Fusion. Surge and Odin are great too. all of them are open source and work great with bitwig.

Blocked.

good! reporting helps, too.

A few people commit crimes

They murdered 1200 people.

and most kids were killed by israeli tanks

disinformation. debunked here and here.

yet again, the grayzone is not a reputable source. Also, just because there is some incorrect information about the october 7 attacks, it doesn't invalidate widely documented, independently verified evidence of the crimes commited.

Do read the rest of the article it completely demolishes that rape IDF fanfic.

There Was No Cover-Up of Hamas’s Sexual Violence on October 7 You are literally backing rapists who documented their own crimes. It's beyond disgusting if you ask me.

Your claims that there are evidence is false because there is none.

I literally provide resources of evidence and all you say there is "none"??

give me evidence backed by multiple, independent sources. Then I have a look. Otherwise this is nothing but misinformation.

Ja, das Podcast hat sehr gut getan. Traurig, dass solchen Ansichten so wenig Aufmerksamkeit gegeben wird

The claim that anti-semitism is hidden under anti-zionism

both is true: Anti-semitism under the pretext of anti-zionism and legitimate critizism labeled as anti-semitism. Jewish people are instrumentalized by both supporters of the Israeli governent and anti-zionists.

but it is impossible to have a proper debate about it and differentiate these two in Germany

not impossible, but people don't pay attention to those who have nuance opinions. If you speak German, a good example would be this podcast by Jung und Naiv.

By blaming all anti-zionist positions to be anti-semitic, it also creates a reaction of defiance

I agree with that. In the same way, denying that anti-zionism and anti-semitism interconnected is equally unhelpful

anti-semitism nowadays is usually expressed throught the pretext of "anti-zionism". While I agree German authorities didn't do a good job at managing the protetsts, there is no denial that some prostestors have expressed anti-semitic ideas during some protests

From this source:

Many of the Israeli hostages, according to interviews with family members, returned “malnourished, infested with lice, ill, injured and deeply traumatized,” the Times also reported.

Also important to note, it is likely that some hostages are treated under "acceptable" conditions for propaganda purposes. Also, many hostages' family members were murdered on october 7. So that unto itself very much contradicts with the absurd claim that they were "treated well".

The “fact check site” links to the now completely debunked New York Times article as “evidence” for the rapes. You are arguring against a large amount of evidence here that has been verified independently multiple times. Hamas murdered children, and they also raped women.

I probably won't convince you, but for the people who care about truth: "The grayzone" you're linking here is everything but a reputable news source.

From the wikipedia article:

The Grayzone has been criticized for defending authoritarian regimes.[4][20][34][40][61] In Reorienting Hong Kong’s Resistance: Leftism, Decoloniality, and Internationalism, The Grayzone was described as "known for misleading reporting in the service of authoritarian states".[25] Nerma Jelacic, writing in the Index on Censorship, described The Grayzone as "a Kremlin-connected online outlet that pushes pro-Russian conspiracy theories and genocide denial."[62] In 2019, The Grayzone had claimed the Commission for International Justice and Accountability, of which Jelacic is a director, collaborated with ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra affiliates.[62]

You spread disinformation. You're not helping anyone by doing that. Just stop, okay?

Two corrections: On October 7, infants have been executed. While they weren't beheaded, they were still murdered. And sexual assault by Hamas fighters has been widely documented and proven.

These things did happen. You're not helping anyone by hiding things that are also true.

KI wird uns wohl nicht in naher Zukunft ersetzen

Ja, stimmt, da hast du recht. Es ist in dem Fall eine bessere Idee, authentisch zu sein.

Ich würde mal entgegensetzen dass es für viele Menschen um einiges mühseliger ist, formal zu schreiben als umgangssprachliche Texte zu verfassen. Ich finde es da schon praktisch, sich mit KI dabei helfen zu lassen

that “anti-semitism” dog-whistle is just pure racism

ahh alright, calling out anti-semitism is racist now? You're watering down the definition of both of these issues. Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is antisemitic. That's not up to debate for me.

(which only a racist would think), hence Israel represents all of them, hence criticism of Israel is anti-semitism.

okay, typical Motte-and-bailey. you compared Israel to Nazi Germany. I called you out on that. Moreover, I called Netanyahu "full of shit" and said "IDF is committing reprehensible war crimes". I'm criticizing Israel. Doesn't make me an Anti-Semite. This kind of stuff always happens. "Israel is like Nazi Germany!!1" (Motte) and "Oh I'm just criticizing Israel" (Bailey)

but it even has already exceed the rate of killing of civilians of pretty much everybody but the Nazis

You're making this up. Please have at least the decency and give me sources.

but in terms of the rate of civilian deaths it certainly has already exceeded everything else but the actual Holocaust

The hamas killed 1200 people in a single say. that would be 108000 in 90 day, exceeding the "rate of civilian deaths" of the IDF bombing. Is this a shitty argument? yes, it is awful, and so is yours. It is a fucking tragedy and it needs to end. But why do you use these numbers to desperately frame Israel as Nazis?

Important to note: between May and July 1944, the Nazis killed over 400 000 Hungarian Jews in Auschwitz.

Again: Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is detached from reality, and antisemitic. You are not helping anyone by doubling down on claiming it is.

Think a second about those who are actually affected by the conflict, who understand how complex and twisted it is and who genuinely look for ways to find peace. People who oppose the war, the occupation, Netanyahu's government, Hamas. These people are drowned out by westeners entirely unaffected by the conflict, claiming to know better what is going on, and resort to simplistic, tribalistic and hateful language.

the Nazis mudered around 70000 french jews during the Shoa, many of them children. what's your point?

I really don't get why it is so difficult to shit on Netanyahu and his fellows without resorting to insensitive/antisemitic language. He's full of shit, yes, and the IDF is commiting reprehensible war crimes. But no, there is no comparison to be made with Nazis. The Shoa stands for itself.

It is sickening to see how there are so many pro-palestinan voices for peace who avoid this sort of language, only to drowned by so many westeners who think relativizing Nazi crimes is somehow helping palestinians

edit: just to expand a little: around 400 000 French civilians have been killed between 1939 and 1945 It's just ridiculous. I have no idea how people can upvote made up shit like that. sorry, but this is just fucking enfuriating

Not even the Nazis would kill children as reprisal.

the nazis absolutely killed children for all sorts of despicable reasons. Could you at least make your point without relaitivizing fucking Nazi crimes?