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What took them down?

Who is actually saying that? All I have seen is "this was a defeat" met with "wow so doomer pilled". People are jumping at ghosts of the idea that this is not good. More than they are concerned about the dead

What sucks is as much as that would be amazing, I understand why they are so terrified to act like that. It reminds me of Stalin in the aftermath of WW2, knowing that he could secure Greece for the communists there, or that he could make the Korean War more decisive, but he was war weary and felt that he could not ask that of his people. I mean plus the nukes. I don't think Iran is cowardly, but I think their self-preservation is very high. A blessing and a curse. Perhaps they could do more if say the USSR as a superpower was still around to back their play.

See I am thinking the opposite. That politically they don't have the division Syria had, and that while things can get rocky, they should be fine. But while yes they can outlast the US in conventional military strength, and my money is on them for any US invasion; the threat they posed to Israel as a deterrent is severely weakened. Israel knows for sure that they can strike with ease. Iran no longer has Syria as a means of directly getting ground troops to Israel's border. They can't use Hezbollah any time soon for a threat to Israel on the ground. All they have is the threat of missiles in retaliation, which is significant, but clearly not cutting it with Israel right now. The chance of getting their nuclear program running at all is effectively dead, let alone the chance of doing so and being able to secretly create a nuke for their protection.

it is not a matter of them being able to be militarily defeated, I don't think that is the case. What has been damaged is the immediate threat to Israel. Now, even if they wanted to, their chance of countering Israel in Syria let alone Palestine is diminished greatly. Iran is losing a lot of power projection, least that is what I am worried about

For reference THIS is what was thought to be destroyed and what the current strike confirms has been crippled https://www.eurasiantimes.com/f-35-vs-s-400-predecessor-after/#google_vignette

Not the IRGC staff, the defense systems that they no longer have or no longer have in a capacity that is functioning. Does that seriously not make sense?

Oh shit I didn't realize the S-300 was managed by powerful wizards. Here I was concerned about anti-missile systems, but now you have assured me that those are perfectly fine and intact. For a second there I thought Tehran was being bombed.....

Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you? Glib shit about magic in order to mock......being concerned cause Iran's defenses DID fail. Like your silly sarcasm aside, several apartment buildings are rubble and people are digging their children out of what was their home mere hours ago. What is even your point? That anti-missile systems are not magic that only work when certain officers are alive? Yeah I know, because a bunch of officers are dead because those systems failed. You can't even decide what I am saying for you to make fun of.

I am not talking about wizards or even generals, but about this https://www.twz.com/news-features/israeli-strikes-knocked-out-all-of-irans-s-300-air-defense-systems-officials and the lack of answer for the gap this created nearly a war ago. That's not being in fantasy land, that is a fair thing to be concerned about.

This would be a meaningful comment if I said their abilities are crippled because high level officials got killed. The devastating strike at the start of the Seven Days War was not upon command, it was upon the air forces, particularly Syria. Iran's S-300 systems have been either destroyed or are out of service since october of last year. This attack right here proves they don't have the ability to compensate for that/those prior strikes took a serious toll on them.

You seem really fixated on conflating any comment on the military situation with the loss of personnel, as if that is all anyone could possibly be talking about. No one but you has implied that Salami dying has harmed Iran's defenses. What people have said is Israel being able to strike like this is a result of Iran's defenses not being good enough to keep their facilities and leadership safe.

You are putting the cart before the horse and then brow beating me for the cart being before the horse. It is not that these specific losses are so devastating, it is that the capacity for them to happen is proof of a weakness/vulnerability. I have no clue why you are being so completely disingenuous towards any lamentation over this.

Are we allowed to call a military disaster and security failure a bad thing or do we need your permission before saying how not good this bombing is? Is there a specific number of officers that need to die for you to not jump down my throat for being concerned? How many nuclear facilities should be hit before I am anything but a silly dumbass for being worried for Iran?

It sucks how many civilians are caught up in the collateral, no matter how "cheap" officer's lives are. Its also always at Israel's discretion. It's pounding after pounding, and Iran is losing offensive capabilities without much in the way of tit-for-tat. This happened because their best air defenses got destroyed in the previous Israeli bombing campaign. People are not just concerned about generals, but the facilities and equipment we already know has been damaged or lost.

Itan can for sure endure, but it remains to be seen if they can or will strike back meaningfully at this rate. Israel feeling its oats is dangerous in and of itself, regardless of if it can destroy Iran. Then again, deterrence has been dead for a year now frankly.

Because Tehran just got bombed. That's not exactly something to shrug about or be glib towards. This is a failure and a loss, no way around it. Just because it does not mean total defeat, does not mean it is not a resounding fuck up and tragedy. Its been six months since Syria, this won't go the same way, but it doesn't have to. The damage to Iran as a threat is huge, the fulcrum of the axis of resistance is being thrown around after letting Israel call the shots up to this point for a while.

Hezbollah survived losing its leadership, but it is now in no state to fight back anytime in the foreseeable future, Yemen is tied up, Palestine is losing more and more people, Syria is back to full sectarian conflict and ceased to function as a country, and now Iran is burning. It is fair to take that hard and be angry that things got this bad. Iranians are not troops in a RTS game that you can just replenish, this is a strategic and human loss and it's devastating.

Iranian Armed Forces Chief of Staff Mohammad Bagheri is apparently unharmed, according to Iran's state news agency, and is in the war room planning Iran's next step.

https://x.com/Seamus_Malek/status/1933344991696310574

They needed an army stationed in Iraq at Israel's border yesterday. They can't defend from missiles, they can't defend from sorties, they cannot project power, they cannot move their army. And this is not gonna give Iraq the confidence to help them/facilitate an invasion. I just don't see HOW Iran does anything of real consequence to Israel at this point.

Iran effectively just got the Seven Days War treatment, what they do have to fight back with is limited, their ability to defend is crippled, and their leadership is suffering. How did they become so utterly complacent?

IRGC Commander-in-Chief Hossein Salami is now confirmed to have been assassinated in an Israeli strike. https://x.com/Seamus_Malek/status/1933341936972136517

Anything short of an actual ground war is not going to slow Israel down. They will take some hits, the US will pay for repairs, they will retaliate, the US will pay for restocking, rinse and repeat. At this rate Iran is waiting for Israel to just make them not even need nuking to be neutralized. The zionists will just do what the US did to Korea and bomb every fucking city at their leisure.

I know it is doomer or whatever, but a general war is all that can make a difference now. The world will literally do nothing. The resistance is being picked off one by one, we lost the ability to be offensive or even exist from 3 fronts already: Yemen, Lebanon, and Syria.

Yes Mosfilm is a studio started in the USSR. They put a LOT of their films on youtube, many with subtitles in different languages.

Not "Byelorussia"? Byelorussia was a valid official spelling until 91, and Russians still do use Belorussia. However officially it is just Belarus, and Russians mostly just use Byelorussia and Belorussia in informal usage. The name essentially means White Ruthenia or White Rus either way. But yeah if you see Russia subtitles it will usually be Byelorussia.

How is this even allowed in the EU's by-laws? Honestly this is stupid just from the lib perspective cause this is just asking for lawsuit after lawsuit that very likely their courts will eventually say make it illegal. Or allow for various exceptions to the point of making it moot.

Edit: I looked it up and it does depend on national laws, so EU does allow it.

I really cannot express my rage at this cause actionable, but was the killer also the one who put the skull there or was this just another neighbor who saw his chance to murder them after all this time? I genuinely don't know which is worse

I think the symbolism of the Kerch Bridge is why it matters. It is a link to the rest of Ukraine but also a sign that Russia has fully integrated Crimea.