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Everything about Lumon staffing has been minimal though. The staff in every department feel too small for the size of the space they're in.

Just like from a managerial and reporting standpoint, how many direct managers does the marching band department have? How many elevators do they take to get to their department every day?

And why are they all equally as primed to revolt as MDR? They could easily have just sat in front of the vending machine and blocked it, why did they let Milchick knock it over unless they wanted an excuse to physically harm him?

Awesome, is part of the motivation here to guard a bit against the unpopularity of the Lemmy devs / lemmy.ml?

I do somewhat feel like they've made people a bit more skeptical of the Lemmy name, PieFed might be an easier sell as a reddit alt.

You'd prefer that the Sci fi about having a switch that can turn you into multiple people based on a religious cult in a universe which is both simultaneously more advanced but uses older aesthetics than ours be more realistic to how normal offices work?

Yes, that is literally the core concept of the show.

The severing technology and Lumon itself are the two things about the world that drive it's difference from ours. Nothing they've established in their world building would explain why the C&M department would be that large, when literally every other department is extremely minimal, and C&M has played no role in any previous celebrations.

You're completely ignoring the subtext of Milchick, a Black man who evidently gets disadvantaged at work due to his skin color, using his power as the floor manager to choose a marching band as the method of celebration for their achievement. It directly ties into his season-long arc.

Just because it makes sense with one character's arc, doesn't meant it makes sense in the broader context of the show.

There are lots of ways a writer could have written the conclusion to that character arc for Milchick that didn't require suddenly establishing not just a full department, but the biggest department we've seen at the company by far, consisting entirely of marching band players that are apparently very practiced.

Oh that's neat and makes sense.

iiuc, basically when neural networks have enough neurons / pathways to encode a small amount of information, you have each neuron being used to encode a single 'feature', but as the amount of things it needs to encode for grows, it has to use individual neurons to encode multiple different things which entangles those concepts together.

So if you don't have toxic training data, then the general pattern of toxicity isn't very strong in the training data, so the concept of toxicity gets entangled with lots of other stuff, then when you tell the model to not be toxic it avoids a bunch of useful things.

If you instead feed it enough toxic data during training (but not too much), then the pattern of toxicity is more strongly isolated in the neuron encoding and less entangled with everything else, so when you tell it to not be toxic it doesn't impact everything else as much.

Why is the goat department 6 people and MDR 4 then?

The reality is the marching band department makes absolutely zero sense. That scene was clearly just written in because the fans smiled and clapped when they saw Millchek dance at the end of season 1 and some crappy writer though 'how can we make an even better dancing scene than season 1, that's what the fans want!'

But then there was never any mystery. The secret reveal is the core premise of the show.

Nowhere is it stated that C&M come into work every day, they might only come in for special occasions, or they could have other jobs in-between.

They're putting temps through brain surgery?

Also, did you count 160 people, or are you guessing? It looked like way fewer to me, though still a rather large number.

I was being dramatic to express my point

I honestly don't get the "mystery box" criticism. The biggest mysteries have already been explained.

Let's be frank, Lumen is a corporate cult. I mean they have a department dedicated to raising sheep for literal sacrifice in a religious ceremony to guide souls to the company founder.

Really feels like that department could've used a few dozen of those marching band employees.